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My shorty forty is injected 350 Chevy, Toyota box and twin transfers and springover. I want to get coilovers for more travel but I know I might have to change my tyres also. I run 44 inch boggers in the mud here but on the rocks we have found out the back of my place I don't think boggers will be the go.

Would really be interested in everyone else's ideas, suggestions on this one.

Buy Cheezy's 44 TSLs


Spotters fee Cheezy

show us your twin transfers, and pics of your rig

i think TSLs are awesome in the rocks!

michelin xml's

who here can get me some 38r16 xmls? how much?

nam..
http://www.cyberus.ca/~morganz/MLM_Modern.html

scroll down, they see them for 9.00 bucks.

dude i want REAL tyres not model tyres

be specific dude

I am going to leave this thread as is, cause i was LMAO

but no more out of line posts in general4x4tech!

heheh sorry about that BJ
anyway, found some sizes of those tires.
http://www.d-90.com/tire/mich.html
they domt seem to have 44's in wiht 16" rim..

does michelin have those tires in Aust?
or do they have to be imported?

any tyre shop that does michelins will be able to get them.

you want XML, XL or XZL.

what are they worth in AU ?

XZL is discontinued but there are still some around.

XL have really, really stiff sidewalls, they are used in dual wheel setups, the sidewalls have to be grooved to really work well for what we do.

XML are awesome road tyres and flex and bite really well in the rocks, but for a lot of terrain they need the centre lugs grooved up a bit, the pic shows how big the lugs are.. sizes for 16" rims are approx 36" and 39"

They are expensive unless uyou can nab them at the military auctions.

a better pic....

And the only military auctions I know of are in Moorebank, NSW...

Who was it that advised me to go to an auction and buy some off the winning bidder afterwards? Was it you Carlton?

spazbot wrote:what are they worth in AU ?

i dont know prices for 16's.

Prices for 20's are

335/80r20 XZL $581 (12.5-20)
365/80r20 XZL $825 (14.5-20)
365/85r20 XZL $1154 (13.00r20)
395/85r20 XZL $1283 (14.00r20??)

a 16.00R20 XZL is $1800 53 inch.

Carlton,
I dont know about the XZL being discontinued, the places i have asked for them at can only get XZL's. I have been trying to get XML's but Michelin doesnt import these to OZ, i have been told this by a few dealers.

bj on roids wrote:show us your twin transfers, and pics of your rig

i think TSLs are awesome in the rocks!

I don't have scanner or a digital camera BJ but hopefully soon my girl will scan some at work and I will put them here.

I have owned 39.5" TSL's but I see a trend to shorter tyres. I am only asking because the boogers atre fantastic in the mud but they ar not real good on steep side angles. Also the lift the centre of gravity too much. This never used to be a problem dragging in the sloppo out my way.

Has anyoen got the procomps or bajaclaws? I don't think I want to go the Michellins because their mass would be more than my Cv's would like with the CHev on the inside but i reckon they must have there place though.

16x20 XML....accept no alternative!

I run 38.5 baja claws, i did run 35 boggers for a while but wanted to size up.

So for the money i went for the claws, so far i am more than happy with them.

They are not quite a sticky as the tsl's but for $200.00 difference per tyre i was happy with the claw (38.5 baja compared to 39.5 Tsl)

sikfj40 wrote:My shorty forty is injected 350 Chevy, Toyota box and twin transfers and springover. I want to get coilovers for more travel but I know I might have to change my tyres also. I run 44 inch boggers in the mud here but on the rocks we have found out the back of my place I don't think boggers will be the go.

Would really be interested in everyone else's ideas, suggestions on this one.

Sikfj40,

Keep 'em as short as you can. But in the end, everyone will have a different preferance. The good thing is there are some really great choices to be had locally these days. No longer is it just BFG muddies or their copies or Swampers. There are heaps of choices now with great new tyres like Baja Claws, ProComps, MT/R's and even the BFG Krawlers and others.

And still the old trusty troody Swampers can be had in 15" widths on 16.5" rims. If your diff's can stay out of the way, I reckon the new crop of Claws, MT/R's, Krawlers, ProComps and the like are really worth considering. But then again bloke, it will be a long way down from where you are up there on those 44" boggers!

Yeh, me personally when i need new tyres i am going to try and get some 40 inch BFG Krawlers.

Members,
Reference XML's in the military they are fitted to the ASLAV which wieghs around 15t and runs on eight of em driven by rockwells in four pairs gives you 4X8, 6X8 and 8X8 IFS on the front two pairs and trailing support arms for the last two. Independant all round...

The XMl's are 325/85's 16in rims. Generally you wont find many good tyres coming off these wagons as they destroy them left right and centre. I have heard of them doing 128 tyres in one day (staked side walls with 3in rips which I have seen repaired with spagetti/safety seal). They get fug all k's out of them and they will have worn in irregular patterns.

They are thinking of getting Kevlar walled tyres to over come the Sidewall problems but they are around 4000Aud each.

There is another vehicle in the fleet that uses the XML which is the new recovery Mog but it is on a 20in rim. don't know what size but at a guess 40-44in.


I have been told that there is a place in Darwin (which is where the ASLAV's home is) that sells second hand XML's to the public through some sort of arrangement with the maintainence contractor British Aerospace which might be worth following up. This last may be bullshit as I was told this by unconfirmed sources but I could try and find out if any are interested.


Singo

sikfj40 wrote:My shorty forty is injected 350 Chevy, Toyota box and twin transfers and springover. I want to get coilovers for more travel but I know I might have to change my tyres also. I run 44 inch boggers in the mud here but on the rocks we have found out the back of my place I don't think boggers will be the go.

Would really be interested in everyone else's ideas, suggestions on this one.

Sikfj40,

Your big boggers mean you are a C O N E K I L L E R . Don't stop your certificable behaviour.

whats the difference in grip between TSL and TSL SX

big red wrote:whats the difference in grip between TSL and TSL SX

The SX is a radial belt and "may" be tought. I have owned both, the sizes are different, the SX's have "side lugs, the TSL's don't. My prererance was towards the TSL's.

bj on roids wrote:show us your twin transfers

I'll second that! What transfers are they? Lux, Cruiser, Dana, NP? And what sort of injection do you have - TBI? I am thinking about TBI if my Q-JET gives me any trouble.

This thread needs pics
As for tyres - Best around IMHO TSL's....SX's a are tough, but heavy & wear too fast....I love the way TSL's work on both rock & mud....
MT/R's if only rock....
XML's ...fancy, tough etc....but too much of a PITA to source & replace if you need to...
Krawler hmmm interesting esp if you self groove but I'd still go TSL's

i'm saving up for some 38's to chuck on the patrol and just wanted to know whether to get the TSL's or TSL SX'S so all comments gratefully
received.