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Flare options for GQ SWBs and Wagons after gaurd chop?
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:38 am
by SIM79
I have been searching through this forum and with google trying to find flare options for GQ SWBs and wagons after chopping the gaurds.
Options that I have found.
1. Bunning garden edging
2. Giantracing 5 inch fiberglass flares
3. Replacement front gaurds that are designed for bigger diameter tyres and have fares built in, but still need something for the rear gaurds.
4. Get some custom made fiberglass flares made
5. Tube flares??
1. I know this is cheapest option and if done right can look good but I think they will draw to much attention from Police and Dept Transport.
2. These are great if your running 10 inch wide rims or tyres up to 14 inches wide. I will only running 35s on a 8 inch rim so this option is no good for me.
3. The replacement front gaurds are great but it would be stupid to spending all that money on the front and then have nothing for the rear
gaurds.
4. Getting some custom made flares will be expensive but if enough members are keen it might reduce the price.
5. Tube flares, I have no idea if this can be done.
So is anyone else interested in fiberglass flares that are designed for a gaurd chop but are stock in width?
Are tube flares an option? It would be a lot cheaper than fiberglass flares.
Pics of tube flares
re flares
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:09 am
by baxy1
hi,
I just use the rubber flars from hobzees 4x4 available on ebay.
Cheapest around and they are side mount.
Good quality thick rubber as well.
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:12 pm
by TUFFRANGIE
I've seen Wrangler flares modded to fit, they looked good too, but no pictures.
Rob
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:38 pm
by macneil
i just went to clark rubber and got 7m or 1.5mm thick and 75mm wide.. works perfect and is legal.. got me past a roady also the cop said thats all they want to see..
"as long as you cant flick stones from your truck up its ok"
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:56 pm
by SIM79
macneil wrote:i just went to clark rubber and got 7m or 1.5mm thick and 75mm wide.. works perfect and is legal.. got me past a roady also the cop said thats all they want to see..
"as long as you cant flick stones from your truck up its ok"
Thanks I know that these flares are legal but my Patrol isn't legal so I am trying to keep my Patrols appearance as stock a possible so its doesn't get unwanted attention from the Police and Dept. of Transport..
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:13 pm
by Z()LTAN
Bunnings garden trimming for sure!
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:54 pm
by dansedgli
Hobzee's flares dont look out of place imo. They covered my old 35 inch simex and the current claws pretty well.
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:11 pm
by twodiffs
I went to a place that does conveyor belts, for $20 I got a bit about 10m long, 300 wide and about 8mm thick. Was easy to trim back to width (90mm) and screw on, it's tough as and won't be coming off in a hurry.
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:41 pm
by RN
This discussion has been around the traps a few times.
I believe the ADR's stipulate that flares have to be tough enough to resist impacting pedestrians etc. Read it once or heard it but I think that was the sentiment of what flared guards are to be constructed of.
Ie if you brushed up against a ped, the flare would not distort to where the tyre would rip into the ped.
Probably why they are usually made of fibre glass or high impact plastic composite.
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:54 pm
by big bundy
RoadNazi wrote:This discussion has been around the traps a few times.
I believe the ADR's stipulate that flares have to be tough enough to resist impacting pedestrians etc. Read it once or heard it but I think that was the sentiment of what flared guards are to be constructed of.
Ie if you brushed up against a ped, the flare would not distort to where the tyre would rip into the ped.
Probably why they are usually made of fibre glass or high impact plastic composite.
wow never thought of it like that
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:35 pm
by Nelso
dansedgli wrote:Hobzee's flares dont look out of place imo. They covered my old 35 inch simex and the current claws pretty well.
Only on 8 inch rims. As soon as you run a bigger offset or 10 inch rims your tyres aren't covered.
df
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:39 pm
by siklux
im a fan of the bunnings garden edging, only down side is they dont offer any flex, unless you consider the guard flexin as suitable!
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:45 pm
by tj81
Just come inside from the shed where ive fitted bunnings garden edging in place of the smaller rubber ones, after a slight mis hap with a cooper delaminating at 95kph ripped it clean off.
They look good, easy to fit, durable and made to fit
best bit is, only $40 odd bucks to do the whole truck
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:38 am
by SIM79
Are tube flares an option?
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:46 am
by SIM79
Z()LTAN wrote:Bunnings garden trimming for sure!
Z()LTAN in your pic it looks like you have something fitted between your gaurd edge and the garden edging. What is it?
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:46 am
by Z()LTAN
its a big bead of black sikaflex smoothed off with my finger.
It covers the gap and finishes it off really well.
These bunnings flares are very robust when u put a good number of screws in them, we have had the shorty on its side and the flares ended up holding the car up off the panels
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:19 pm
by ELF_83
I'll be making up something similar to those tube flares when i finish doing the panel work on my rear quarters from wheel base extension.runnin gu diffs and cruiser offsets on 36's with 2" spring and 1" cab doesn't leave many options that look good and last longer than a day bunnings stuff only ever last 3 or 4 stages.
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:27 pm
by SIM79
ELF_83 wrote:I'll be making up something similar to those tube flares when i finish doing the panel work on my rear quarters from wheel base extension.runnin gu diffs and cruiser offsets on 36's with 2" spring and 1" cab doesn't leave many options that look good and last longer than a day bunnings stuff only ever last 3 or 4 stages.
Can you post some pics up once the tube flares are finished.
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:35 pm
by Yom
RoadNazi wrote:This discussion has been around the traps a few times.
I believe the ADR's stipulate that flares have to be tough enough to resist impacting pedestrians etc. Read it once or heard it but I think that was the sentiment of what flared guards are to be constructed of.
Ie if you brushed up against a ped, the flare would not distort to where the tyre would rip into the ped.
Probably why they are usually made of fibre glass or high impact plastic composite.
which would make the rubber flares somewhat illegal i gues?
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:31 pm
by RN
Yom wrote:RoadNazi wrote:This discussion has been around the traps a few times.
I believe the ADR's stipulate that flares have to be tough enough to resist impacting pedestrians etc. Read it once or heard it but I think that was the sentiment of what flared guards are to be constructed of.
Ie if you brushed up against a ped, the flare would not distort to where the tyre would rip into the ped.
Probably why they are usually made of fibre glass or high impact plastic composite.
which would make the rubber flares somewhat illegal i gues?
Bunnings garden edging most likely..the others well, depends how tough they are.
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:19 pm
by Yom
The bunnings garden edging would have to be the toughest material available - its really not that flexible at all.
Which could also be another problem i'm guessing
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:18 pm
by brad-chevlux
RoadNazi wrote:Yom wrote:RoadNazi wrote:This discussion has been around the traps a few times.
I believe the ADR's stipulate that flares have to be tough enough to resist impacting pedestrians etc. Read it once or heard it but I think that was the sentiment of what flared guards are to be constructed of.
Ie if you brushed up against a ped, the flare would not distort to where the tyre would rip into the ped.
Probably why they are usually made of fibre glass or high impact plastic composite.
which would make the rubber flares somewhat illegal i gues?
Bunnings garden edging most likely..the others well, depends how tough they are.
so the tube flares would be legal if attached strongly
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:30 am
by nastytroll
RoadNazi wrote:This discussion has been around the traps a few times.
I believe the ADR's stipulate that flares have to be tough enough to resist impacting pedestrians etc. Read it once or heard it but I think that was the sentiment of what flared guards are to be constructed of.
Ie if you brushed up against a ped, the flare would not distort to where the tyre would rip into the ped.
Probably why they are usually made of fibre glass or high impact plastic composite.
This was almst word for word what the copper said to me when he decected me for no flares on the front. I always had flares or side rails but rippedtheflares off the day before, they were in my tray at the time of the defect notice.
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:26 am
by RN
nastytroll wrote:RoadNazi wrote:This discussion has been around the traps a few times.
I believe the ADR's stipulate that flares have to be tough enough to resist impacting pedestrians etc. Read it once or heard it but I think that was the sentiment of what flared guards are to be constructed of.
Ie if you brushed up against a ped, the flare would not distort to where the tyre would rip into the ped.
Probably why they are usually made of fibre glass or high impact plastic composite.
This was almst word for word what the copper said to me when he decected me for no flares on the front. I always had flares or side rails but rippedtheflares off the day before, they were in my tray at the time of the defect notice.
So I never dreamt it then. I was getting a bit worried that dementia had kicked in...
The standard flares are quite strong and have saved the panels of my Mav from damage when I brushed up against brickwork in a carport. If they had been flimsy rubber they would have crushed up and exposed the panel.
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:02 pm
by grimbo
on my old Zuk I had polyethylene sheeting as my flares. It covered the tyres, it was flexible and it was very thin. When I got defected I was told in no uncertain terms that flares had to be of a structural nature to deflect pedestrians etc from the moving wheels and thus my flares were illegal, as were garden edging, conveyor belt rubber and some of the rubber stuff aold as flares.
Mind you my car went through the road worthy process very thoroughly to clear the defect notice.
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:15 am
by gq351
i cut 25mm around the whole gaurd so they sit on the body line & used the 75mm flexi flares from ARB, they seem ok & JUST cover the 37''x12.50 on 8'' rims, have rubbed on alot of trees & they just bend back!!
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:04 am
by rotate_gq
Has anyone got pictures of tube flares on a GQ? Haven't seen them on a gq that's still used as a road car before. Looking at a chop when i put new arms and springs in and i reckon they'd be suitable.
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:36 am
by bogged
SIM79 wrote:
Are tube flares an option?
These look good.. most of the rubber options looks like shit
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:04 pm
by rotate_gq
Do you know where they're made bogged? Looks like the pics are from a jeep. I'm sure they're a multi fit item, but if there were a pair specifically fabbed to suit a patrol, following the step in the guard at the very top to keep with the body line etc it could look pretty good.
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:00 pm
by scratchedsafari
grimbo wrote:on my old Zuk I had polyethylene sheeting as my flares. It covered the tyres, it was flexible and it was very thin. When I got defected I was told in no uncertain terms that flares had to be of a structural nature to deflect pedestrians etc from the moving wheels and thus my flares were illegal, as were garden edging, conveyor belt rubber and some of the rubber stuff aold as flares.
as has been said a couple of times above, Bunnings garden edging is not flexible. its way tougher than the standard flares!