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Best immobilisation points for G13B (carby)

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:22 pm
by Moph
Fitting an immobiliser to the Zook at the moment. What are my best immobilisation points on a carby motor with mechanical fuel injection??? The alarm has 2 point immobilisation and I have to use both immobilisation points for when I move to Perth (2 point immobilisation required and inspected before they'll tranfer rego).

Thoughts so far are:
1) Relay to activate carby fuel cut-off solenoid (but not sure if this only does the idle jet...?)
2) Relay to cut 12v feed to coil (patch in behind fuse box - pretty easy to get past though)
3) Relay to connect coil to earth when the immobiliser is armed, so that if they do get the starter turning over the coil will just earth to the chassis rather than through the leads - ie no spark

Any ideas?

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:26 pm
by lay80n
Do more than one point, do both the coil, starter and fuel cut. If they want a car, theives will get it regardless of what system it has on it. But by making it harder and more time consuming, you are upping the chances of them either giving up or being distrubed/caught.


Layto....

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:33 pm
by 86slowsierra
my old one used to cut the power to the coil and starter.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:42 pm
by nicbeer
take the coil wire with you :)

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:59 pm
by just cruizin'
disconnect the fuel hose.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:20 pm
by GRPABT1
Leave it at macdonalds, safest zook parking there is :lol:

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:25 pm
by atari4x4
take the carbon brush out of the inside of the dizzy cap, it's so small you wouldn't know it was missing.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:30 pm
by Moph
Thanks guys ... reeeeeal helpful :)

Spotted you at Morgan on the weekend Atari - panel vanned windows looks the shizzle :cool:

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:31 pm
by RockHopper
If you're looking for two points, it'll usually be a relay for the starter motor and a relay for the ignition coil on a carby type engine.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:35 pm
by Moph
I'm thinking that the starter motor is the first place everyone looks so it's probably the least useful cut point. Plus I'd rather that it turned over but doesn't start (no ignition) - far more difficult to track down no ignition than no starter.

Hell, a lot of Zooks turn over and don't start without an immobiliser fitted!! How would a thief ever tell the difference?!? :D

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:40 pm
by atari4x4
Moph wrote:Thanks guys ... reeeeeal helpful :)

Spotted you at Morgan on the weekend Atari - panel vanned windows looks the shizzle :cool:
dude, where were you, what were you in, ya should have come over & said g'day?

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:06 pm
by Moph
Nah mate didn't have time - drove past at noon on my way up to Waikerie, and came back at 9pm. Wasn't stopped in Morgan or I would have :)

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:06 pm
by lexplay
black with white tracer wire. but any one can hotwire a carby zook with a coathanger or one wire. lol

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:24 pm
by danssurf82
if is a requirement i would go with the coil and well u would pretty much have to go starter motor, but take the starter motor one off once u have got rego so theifs think the car is broken down...
also run your fuel line into your car or under it close to where u sit and put a valve on it which when u get out of the car u close the valve so the only petrol that goes in the motor is what is already in the carby and in the line past the valve, its funny when if a thief does get it started they only get 100 meters down the road and break down, then they leave the car cause they think its a piece of crap!!

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:13 pm
by Moph
lexplay wrote:black with white tracer wire. but any one can hotwire a carby zook with a coathanger or one wire. lol
That's kinda the point of an immobiliser - to stop it being a one-wire job to hotwire them ;)

Not keen on manual intervention like a fuel cutoff valve. Just looking to kill the ignition system at multiple points to make it difficult to get started.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:30 pm
by danssurf82
ppl can get through all the cut off's on a carby car easily by HOT wiring a wire from your coil to your battery- and another to your starter motor to bypass these.. fuel cut off is best idea cause if they do get through the electrical imobilisation they have no fuel

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:01 pm
by joeblow
just leave the stock sierra carby on it...they won't get far!.....

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:26 pm
by lump_a_charcoal
I did the starter motor and coil wire, make sure you tape everything up into looms to make it a bit harder for them.

I reckon having a lock on the Tcase for neutral would be good too...

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:45 am
by PJ.zook
For the kids who steal one for a joyride, just leave the transfer in neutral, they may not know 4x4's.

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:54 pm
by waandy
PJ.zook wrote:For the kids who steal one for a joyride, just leave the transfer in neutral, they may not know 4x4's.
i thought mine got stuck in neutral one day..... till i realised the axle was hanging a foot outa the diff when i got out to scratch my head.

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:47 pm
by Guy
weld a lug to the gearstick and one to the T/case shifter.
Cable and padlock between the two. They wont get far in low/reverse.

I hate "kill switches" they always seem to act up at the worst possible time.

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:20 pm
by zookeenie
Rotor Button In Pocket....has worked for me every time!

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:05 pm
by Guy
zookeenie wrote:Rotor Button In Pocket....has worked for me every time!
How many times has someone attempted to steal it ?

I locked the doors and took the keys out.. worked for me every time to.