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tie rod end

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 6:44 pm
by diesel028
whats the trick to getting a tie rod end out of the steering arm without using the specialist tool?

Cheers

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 7:09 pm
by basketcase
hit it

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 7:43 pm
by Area54
Just buy the right tool, they are only about 15 bucks. makes the job so much easier and no risk of damage to parts or yourself if the BFH miscalclates it's trajectory...

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 8:13 pm
by RUFF
Area54 wrote:Just buy the right tool, they are only about 15 bucks. makes the job so much easier and no risk of damage to parts or yourself if the BFH miscalclates it's trajectory...


Actually if you are talking a TRE remover like the style that goes between the TRE and the arm and forces it apart these do more damage than good and also destroy the boot. They are designed to remove a worn TRE that is being replaced not one that needs to be re-used.

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 8:17 pm
by RUFF
basketcase wrote:hit it


Do not hit the TRE at all. You want to loosen the nut till it is almost off the end of the thread then you want to use a decent size hammer(lump hammer is good) and hit the steering arm on the side right where the TRE goes through. Do not hit any of the steering links. If it wont pop this way then use a long bar and get someone to leaver down/up on the steering link as close to the TRE as possible while hitting the steering arm in the same place. You will need to hit fairly hard. Fairy taps wont work.

I have never had to use a TRE Destroying tool.

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 8:22 pm
by Area54
not the two prong fork style, I'm talking the press style, like a small pitman arm puller. Shaped like a large 'U', with a large high tensile bolt through the bend in the U to press on the bolt of the TRE.

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 8:35 pm
by RUFF
Area54 wrote:not the two prong fork style, I'm talking the press style, like a small pitman arm puller. Shaped like a large 'U', with a large high tensile bolt through the bend in the U to press on the bolt of the TRE.


Yes they work Ok but are very hard to get into some situations.

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 9:27 pm
by the_smoo
I used a small el-cheapo bearing puller that cost about 10 bucks at super cheap.

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 9:39 pm
by diesel028
Cheers Ruff, will try this........

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:21 pm
by hypo
best way is 2 undo the nut from the TRE, get 2 BFH's hold one on one side of TRE and hit the other side of TRE with the other BFH, u will only need 2 do this 2 or 3 times and the TRE will pop out, if it dont then get a peice of hardwood and place on the TRE where the nut goes on and hit the hard wood a few times and repaet if nessesary(sp?) until it POPs and then remove it, very easy

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:41 pm
by Rorza
hey Ruff are you a mechanic or just a 4b expert?

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 8:58 am
by Wendle
i back the nut off a couple of turns, then put a jack under the tie-rod so some of the weight of the truck is trying to pull the joint apart, only ever takes one good hit to pop it then.

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 10:07 am
by RUFF
Rorza wrote:hey Ruff are you a mechanic or just a 4b expert?


Im nobody :)

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 10:42 am
by 4sum4
RUFF wrote:
Rorza wrote:


Im nobody :)



:D

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:33 pm
by basketcase
RUFF wrote:
basketcase wrote:hit it


Do not hit the TRE at all. You want to loosen the nut till it is almost off the end of the thread then you want to use a decent size hammer(lump hammer is good) and hit the steering arm on the side right where the TRE goes through. Do not hit any of the steering links. If it wont pop this way then use a long bar and get someone to leaver down/up on the steering link as close to the TRE as possible while hitting the steering arm in the same place. You will need to hit fairly hard. Fairy taps wont work.

I have never had to use a TRE Destroying tool.


I didn't mean for it to sound like that. I meant tap the steering arm so the tapered bolt comes out easier.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:02 am
by dave
4sum4 wrote:
RUFF wrote:
Rorza wrote:


Im nobody :)



:D

The funny bit is i wanted Tony to stick those 2 fingers up my ass :oops: thats me bent over in the rest of the photo that you havn't shown

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:32 pm
by RUFF
dave wrote:
4sum4 wrote:
RUFF wrote:
Rorza wrote:


Im nobody :)



:D

The funny bit is i wanted Tony to stick those 2 fingers up my ass :oops: thats me bent over in the rest of the photo that you havn't shown



Thats just wrong :roll:

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:12 pm
by POS
RUFF wrote:
dave wrote:
4sum4 wrote:
RUFF wrote:
Rorza wrote:


Im nobody :)



:D

The funny bit is i wanted Tony to stick those 2 fingers up my ass :oops: thats me bent over in the rest of the photo that you havn't shown



Thats just wrong :roll:


Only if you didn't enjoy it! :)

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:16 pm
by Bitsamissin
I use the type that was described above that you screw up, the fork types are useless and spread apart.
With a lifted IFS balljoint/tie rod removal is an art because you aint got much room to move.
Backing the nut off so it is level with the bolt thread gives better surface area to belt with a dumpy hammer this almost always works if it is mounted in a knuckle that is rigid and stops the thread getting damaged.
The tie rod mount to the drag link is usually the tricky one and I got a Kinchrome ($22) tie rod end remover and machined it down a tad to fit the size on my car. One time I couldn't get one apart no matter what I did so had to heat it up with an oxy to get it to pop out - BANG............