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NH Pajero Factory Rear Diff Lock

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:32 pm
by Outlanded
Hey Guys,

First post on here so go easy.

Recently bought a 91 NH Pajero that has the factory mitsi rear diff lock which works great, just wondering if anyone knows how to by pass the switching mechanisim so it can be engaged when just in 2wd, car is doing a fair amount of beach work so would just be good to have it as the one wheeler in medium sand just doesnt do it any justice.

I realise the risks etc in this but the bypass switch will be up and out of reach, and I am the only driver.

I have searched about but cannot find a specifc guide as such.

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers,
Brent

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:32 pm
by South
Your better off running in 4H on the beach. Running rwd only and locked is just going to make you do better skids when your cornering. The correct tyre pressure too will see you not having any issues.

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:09 pm
by Outlanded
Yeah, its not that boggy, just softish and having rear diff locked would benefit just to have power going to each wheel.

running correct pressures.

also find car has alot more guts in rwd than 4h.

Cheers

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:12 pm
by jonnyjtop
its very easy...and fun too ...find your compressor splice into the red wire,
run a new wire from where you spliced it to where you want to put the new switch (i put mine in one of the blank spots inside my dash where the switch for the doubble park blinkers is) then with a test light find a constant positive power (spliced into wire for doubble park blinkers) you could get it from anywhere radio, lights or even strait from battery...at this point you just use the switch just like a circit breaker..when its on it completes the circut when its off it breaks it...really easy...now you have a fun car to drive in 2wd...my switch is just a standard narva 12v switch it also has a light on it when its on the light is on its a sturdy kind of one so it cant really be turned on/off unless you really mean it

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:35 pm
by Outlanded
thats too easy!

so i take the compressor has its own switch to maintain pressure etc?

so by just giving this wire charge it is just like the remote to an amp, tells a relay or solenoid on the pump to engage?

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:30 pm
by jonnyjtop
well not really like a remote to an amp...but yeah once its on it stays on and maintains pressure.....id just splice into the wire not cut it completely so if you ever want to use it normally you can just use your normal switch or when you sell the car just take out the switch so no one knows what you have been up too....its fun...just be careful

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:02 am
by Outlanded
all good thanks fella's, I'll do it next week sometime, will the indicator light on the dash light up to say its engaged? I assume not?

diff lock

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:41 am
by pom300
and then you break ya diff from being a silly bugger doing skids on the bitchy,lol then your on here lookin for a new diff,then everyone laughs at you cause there so hard to get,then you just put a shitty one wheeler back in,and then ya back to one wheel on the beach,gl with that you should respect that diff.i have done some awsome off road driving that some people wouldnt think a pajero could do.and its cause i use it right but hey its your car.

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:03 pm
by jonnyjtop
yes it will light up and flash when in 2wd...

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:34 pm
by Outlanded
cool thanks mate, appreciate you help.

pom30 who said anything about doing skids on the roads?.... I want to manually lock so it can be used in situations where you dont neeed to be engaged 4wd lc....

Im no stranger to mitisi's and there drive lines, had a plenty of vr4's. If you want to break diffs and transfer cases happy enough to teach you...

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:24 pm
by j-top paj
i personally wouldnt bother doing it.
when i drove my j top on the sand i just used 4 high open and it was fine...
2wd on sand is just going to get the back to bog down, open, limo or locked

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:58 pm
by jonnyjtop
i think he wants to do hellis on the sand...just does not wanna say it...anyway whatever you choose to do...thats how you do it...

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:13 pm
by -Scott-
I've never understood people who buy a 4wd, then don't want to use it. :?

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:19 pm
by j-top paj
-Scott- wrote:I've never understood people who buy a 4wd, then don't want to use it. :?

go for a drive through shitney on a friday/saturday night Scott....

a few weekends ago i was riding though and the amount of 4wd "posers" i saw was unbeleivable :roll:

spoke to a guy in a lifted (and tidy) 40 series running 42s, and asked him when was the last tim he "locked the hubs"....
answer was "lock the whats??? :? "
i asked about when he last drove it in the bush and he just looked at me strangely and told me it was just a "show car"
:roll:

i felt like grabbing his "P" plates and raming them up his arse :roll:

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:23 pm
by jonnyjtop
hehehehe.. ..you guys are right....sorry i was just answering his question because iv had to do it as my switch stopped working but if its working fine what else would you use it for??? i admit to checking if it works by a little ass flick here and there...but only for usefull purposeses...i only engage it when i really have to as its an expenseve and rare unit to replace and wanna have a fun and reliablr 4x4 when im in the middle of the bush.........maybe he really does have a good use for it other than what i said before but its putting unneccersary strain on the diff for nothing in 2wd.....but like i said before each to their own i dont let the little things bother me...what bike you got jtop??we may have to go wheelin and riding someday when i get my licence back

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:51 pm
by j-top paj
jonnyjtop wrote:what bike you got jtop??we may have to go wheelin and riding someday when i get my licence back
i ride a VFR regularily and a XR400 on the weekends...

jump online if your want...

http://nswriders.motionforum.net/forum.htm

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:30 am
by -Scott-
j-top paj wrote:
-Scott- wrote:I've never understood people who buy a 4wd, then don't want to use it. :?

go for a drive through shitney on a friday/saturday night Scott....
Sorry - didn't really put that too well. Yes, I understand there's the poser crowd who won't ever see dirt, much less need 4wd. But I can't understand the crowd who happily take their 4wd offroad, but don't want to use 4wd when they do it.

What is that?

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:13 am
by LordMayhem
hi guys new here. just wondering. i have a nh pajero and my rear diff lock switch is stuffed. does anyone know what type of after market switch i need to replace it and how to wire in the new switch??
Thanks Jamie

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 10:33 am
by OGJON
LordMayhem wrote:hi guys new here. just wondering. i have a nh pajero and my rear diff lock switch is stuffed. does anyone know what type of after market switch i need to replace it and how to wire in the new switch??
Thanks Jamie
just go get an ARB switch

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:54 am
by NJV6
OGJON wrote:
LordMayhem wrote:hi guys new here. just wondering. i have a nh pajero and my rear diff lock switch is stuffed. does anyone know what type of after market switch i need to replace it and how to wire in the new switch??
Thanks Jamie
just go get an ARB switch
And then wonder why it won't work.


Or do this as written above.

its very easy...and fun too ...find your compressor splice into the red wire,
run a new wire from where you spliced it to where you want to put the new switch (i put mine in one of the blank spots inside my dash where the switch for the doubble park blinkers is) then with a test light find a constant positive power (spliced into wire for doubble park blinkers) you could get it from anywhere radio, lights or even strait from battery...at this point you just use the switch just like a circit breaker..when its on it completes the circut when its off it breaks it...really easy...now you have a fun car to drive in 2wd...my switch is just a standard narva 12v switch it also has a light on it when its on the light is on its a sturdy kind of one so it cant really be turned on/off unless you really mean it

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 3:27 pm
by LordMayhem
NJV6 wrote:
OGJON wrote:
LordMayhem wrote:hi guys new here. just wondering. i have a nh pajero and my rear diff lock switch is stuffed. does anyone know what type of after market switch i need to replace it and how to wire in the new switch??
Thanks Jamie
just go get an ARB switch
And then wonder why it won't work.


Or do this as written above.

its very easy...and fun too ...find your compressor splice into the red wire,
run a new wire from where you spliced it to where you want to put the new switch (i put mine in one of the blank spots inside my dash where the switch for the doubble park blinkers is) then with a test light find a constant positive power (spliced into wire for doubble park blinkers) you could get it from anywhere radio, lights or even strait from battery...at this point you just use the switch just like a circit breaker..when its on it completes the circut when its off it breaks it...really easy...now you have a fun car to drive in 2wd...my switch is just a standard narva 12v switch it also has a light on it when its on the light is on its a sturdy kind of one so it cant really be turned on/off unless you really mean it

hi you wouldn't know which red wire?? as i have opened the wiring loom that runs into the pump and there are a few red wires..... lol

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 10:20 am
by NJV6
There are only two wires that go to the pump. And one of them is Red :D

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 11:39 am
by LordMayhem
NJV6 wrote:There are only two wires that go to the pump. And one of them is Red :D
the pump is located under the back seat on drivers side behind the little access panel and there is a whole heap of wires (like a good fist full thick) going there....or do i have the wrong position???

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 6:20 pm
by NJV6
LordMayhem wrote:
NJV6 wrote:There are only two wires that go to the pump. And one of them is Red :D
the pump is located under the back seat on drivers side behind the little access panel and there is a whole heap of wires (like a good fist full thick) going there....or do i have the wrong position???
Your right, the pump is under there but there is only 2 wires to the pump.

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:04 pm
by LordMayhem
NJV6 wrote:
LordMayhem wrote:
NJV6 wrote:There are only two wires that go to the pump. And one of them is Red :D
the pump is located under the back seat on drivers side behind the little access panel and there is a whole heap of wires (like a good fist full thick) going there....or do i have the wrong position???
Your right, the pump is under there but there is only 2 wires to the pump.
ok maybe i need to remove the little guard to it to work out what ones go to the pump itself out of this handful thick loom of wires thanks mate

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:50 am
by jop
G'day - Before doing this mod, can i have some help with a bit of fault finding.

My jtop diff lock is sometimes hard to get activated and is turning itself off a fair bit - not real good in most situations!

I am assuming that i have a transfer or front diff switch playing up.

Anyone know the diff lock electrics?

Thanks
Mark

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:27 pm
by j-top paj
getting it to engage: roll the car forward or backward a little bit and it should engage.

turning itself off: dunno, is it just the light going out or can you feel it disengage?
what speeds are you doing when it switches off?

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:38 pm
by jop
Low speeds - usually crawling. Definately disengaging.

The other night at ormeau it turned off 3 times in a 500m steep, rutted hill.
I could turn it back on each time, with out stopping.

My worry is it engaging and disengaging while loaded and doing damage