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Import Turbo Diesel 60series?
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:17 pm
by RUFF
Anyone got any specs on these things. Are they 6cyl or 4cyl? And what displacement. What options do they usually come with?
I need a Tow rig and dont want a GQ as i would end up wheeling it. Want something thats capable of towing my lux which should way around 1500kgs but not very capable offroad. It wont ever get suspension or tyres so this is no concern.
Dont want to hear about insurance and why i shouldnt buy an import. Or what im better off buying.
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:49 pm
by pegasus
Hey Tony,
Not sure about specs for the petrol variety, but the import 60 's have 4 cylander diesels, and I have seen both manual and auto versions. They are a 24V system as well. The motor is 3.4 Litres I think, but looks different to 3.4 litre diesel sold in 40's. Maybe same guts though. They are also Turbo-charged.
They have a nice interior, with a little tacho, and some come with electric windows and the like. The 62 series Sahara's have a fridge in the centre consol, but I have heard that some import normal 60's also have the fridge. This is the G-Pack I think. I have also heard that the import 60's have a factory locker in the backm but again, not sure about that.
Stew
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:51 pm
by RUFF
Cool thanks. Im only after a Deisel one. And i heard they have a small fridge in the consol. Didnt realise they were 24volt though.
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:12 pm
by hypo
thought u were using the snotlux 2 tow a buggy ??
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 12:41 am
by napsta
make sure u get one with a bling bling bar
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:41 am
by Monty
I was sure the import 60s still had the 2h or 2ht being the turbo versian engine and both are 6cylinder 4 litre diesal engines.
They run a 24volt system.
Cable Factory lockers were an option that are on a lot of them but u have to drive them about 2 metres to engage them.
Not all the imports come with the fridge but a lot of them did but it was als0o an option for australian models
They are a bloddy comfortable interior with made dashes and bullshit ometres.
THe only thing that is a big downer is the price on parramatta road its funny when u see them advertised for over 20grand and the truck is already like 18 years old
But they are usually imaculant and can find them with 50000ks only on them.
And 60s still go places regardless of lift and tyres
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 12:49 pm
by dumbdunce
can get with either 4 cyl or 6 cyl, auto or manual. 6 cyl ones are available from local market. jap import ones will typically be stacked with power everything, twin air, steer, sunroofs, adjustable shocks that don't work, heated seats, a questionable or nonexistant service history, etc etc.
engine displ. cyl. type. hp@rpm ft.lbs@rpm valves brexstk comp
13B-T 3431 4 TDD 120@3400 210@2000 8 OHV 102x105 17.6:1
12H-T 3980 6 TDD 135@3500 231@2000 12 OHV 91x102 18.6:1
the 13B-T is arguably the better motor and has more power potential than the 12H-T - with a bigger turbo, intercooling and tuning a reliable 300+ hp is achievable from either.
the A440F auto trans is a place where power goes to die and rebuilds are expensive, its strength is also marginal for towing applications. the H55F manual is fairly robust but 5th gear is an achilles heel and needs to be babied.
60 series are about as comfortable as a hilux of similar age without the benefits of small size and economy.
I know you don't want to hear it but for similar $ a V6 pajero or jackaroo or similar makes a far more comfortable and economical tow rig, will use more fuel but also go faster and maintenance on a newer petrol vehicle is significantly cheaper.
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 5:25 pm
by planb
i heard about the recent imports on pazzamatta rd
a mate of mine said he was 'certain' he saw one with coils
but i think hes trippin
i saw a $25000 price tag on one, with a gay winch
farkkk you could buy an awesome 80 for that
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:11 pm
by roscoFJ73
There is plenty of them in Perth .I ve never seen a BJ 60,they were all 12HT or 2H.
If you want one its best to go through someone like Skip did.
This guys acts as a proxy at Japanese auctions after his aussie mechanic checks them out. The 60s 70s series are in demand and are best ordered.
The going FOB rate is about $10-$11k with 100000klm .
http://www.prestigemotorsport.com.au/au ... order=desc
They offered a gold 89 BJ74 with 50k immaculate cond for $9900 a few weeks back.
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:31 pm
by NICK
all the ones i have seen are 12HT 24V. Alot of places are now doing an import 80s which is a 24V 1-HDT, which in my mind you would be better of with, only for the reason that they are newer and coils "should" give a better ride.
Both engines have piss weak bottom ends, to replace a 12HT you will pay around $6000 and to replace the HDT you will pay about 10,000. make sure you get one with a good engine although i have seen both with over 500,000 on them and still going strong.
All the ones i have seen are push botton 4x4, same as offered in the australian 10/89 on wood 60s. I believe it is the same auto that is used in the 80s, so basically it is a bomb proof box, some are 4speed and some 3 with electronic over drive. All are 5speed manual HJ box, so pretty cheap to replace if something does go wrong from towing.
Another thing to check in the rear diff, they are a hybrid old school 40s come 60s, they have a steal hat ctr and are not a lift out ctr like all other cruisers, just something to keep in mind if towing.....eg humphrey at rover park!
The sunroofs ALL rust and are around 800 bucks for a good second hand one and $2500 from toyota, most wreckers will not sell parts only complete as is the same with toyota, being 24V and import i believe they are all dual battery and as stated above have all electric options, i have never seen a povo pack import.
thats about all i can think of now.
What wrong with a range rover for towing?
NICK