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head conversion on a 1300

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:54 pm
by southernearth
Giday,
sorry if this topic has already been covered , i;m new to the site and would like to know if you can change the 1300 cc head with a 16 valve 1600 head, if so how. are there any other ways to get some extra herbs out of the 1300cc engine. thanks

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:41 pm
by jimbo jones
ould be better of with a swift GTI head also check the bible at the top of the suzuki sections its all coverd in there

jimbo

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:33 am
by Guy
jimbo jones wrote:ould be better of with a swift GTI head also check the bible at the top of the suzuki sections its all coverd in there

jimbo
Actually the 16v 1600 head is a far better head in pretty much every way than the 1300 GTI head.
It has better rocker to valve geomerty, better flow rate's, less sucpetable to cracking the list goes on.

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:40 pm
by ice_berg86
which is better out of the the 1600 8v and the 1600 16v heads to use??

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:51 pm
by jimbo jones
but wouldnt you be lowering the compresion weth the 1600 head?

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:39 pm
by Guy
jimbo jones wrote:but wouldnt you be lowering the compresion weth the 1600 head?
From memory chamber size is the same, you can alwyas skim it as well.

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:43 pm
by Guy
ice_berg86 wrote:which is better out of the the 1600 8v and the 1600 16v heads to use??
Carb ir EFI ?

EFI, if your going to do it go the whole hog and do the 16v, The 8v head the 1.3 is no real difference to the 1.6 8v head. The valves are marginly bigged on the 1.6 head,
l feel that the 1.3 may sacfrifice some off idle grunt with the bigger intake valves (lower intake velocity)

The 1.6 definatley seems to benifit from smaller intake valves (for off idle torque)

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:34 pm
by Gwagensteve
ice_berg86 wrote:which is better out of the the 1600 8v and the 1600 16v heads to use??
That all depends on induction.

I fyou want to run carby, the 8V head is easier as there is a ready to go carby manifold.

If you want to run a 16V carby, you'll be making your own inlet manifold. Sounds easy, but you need to take into account the water neck for the thermostat housing is also on the inlet manifold.

There is a 16V Throttle body manifold which is like a carby mount, but it's from a swift so water neck is also in the wrong spot.

If you want to run GSXR side draft carbies or something, go crazy, but if you're keeping it sane, stick with the 8V head for carby and 16V head for EFI

99% of 16V heads will come with the manfolds attached so I'd be looking to go EFI anyway, you'll never look back. Carbies suck.

Steve.

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:07 pm
by southernearth
thanks for your suggestions, i think i'm gunna lean towards changing it over to the 16valve efi head.