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Dont loose your keys (02 Patrol)

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:47 pm
by kc_ksom
I lost my keys, remotes everything, turns out the key has a transponder in the key head and needs to be programed, but to order a new key you need to bring in rego papers, photo id, then order, the key, it will come cut (but only if they can get the correct key number) then i need to pick the key up, take it home, open the car and move out of the garage and into the street so i can get a tilt tray to pick it up, then tow it to the dealer so they can re program the BCM or what ever to take the new key, then code the remote to suit. what a barstard!!!! All up it will be around $340.00 and thats with a cheap rate tow truck PRICKS!!!!!

Dont leave ya keys lying around in easy reach of your young fella's...

Casey

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:03 pm
by GU-ish
that is somewhat unlucky
i hate it wen ya lock the keys in the car..... out comes the coat hanger!

Re: Dont loose your keys (02 Patrol)

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:23 pm
by Tailspin
kc_ksom wrote: Dont leave ya keys lying around in easy reach of your young fella's...

Casey
I know how you feel mate, My second set of keys for my Commodore went missing around the same time we were trying to teach our young fella to put his rubbish in the bin. After a while if we couldn't find anything we would check the bin. :bad-words: :bad-words:

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:11 pm
by BIG GQ
I take it you're talking about a ZD30 3ltr powered GU

Re: Dont loose your keys (02 Patrol)

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:29 pm
by bogged
Have a spare somewhere then it wont be a problem?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:06 pm
by SilverBulletBM
Not sure if its the same with anything else but with of the commodores you can leave the key in the igniton (ignition in on position) for bout 45mins, the theft deterant module is then overrided and you can start the car.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:41 am
by j-top paj
SilverBulletBM wrote:Not sure if its the same with anything else but with of the commodores you can leave the key in the igniton (ignition in on position) for bout 45mins, the theft deterant module is then overrided and you can start the car.
i was told that doesnt work with a GU

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:51 am
by mr_wonderful
DONT GET THE KEY PRE CUT FROM NISSAN
get the key code from dealer which they can do from service not parts
and buy a blank key and get it cut yourself i think the part number is h0564-vk100
cause they never cut it correctly

cheers

p.s. i think i remember seeing on patrol4x4.com someone had the programing sequence for the keys so saves you a tow truck bill

hope this helps

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:45 am
by bogged
mr_wonderful wrote:I think i remember seeing on patrol4x4.com someone had the programing sequence for the keys so saves you a tow truck bill
Correct - for the remotes, but not the keys. :(

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:33 am
by mr_wonderful
bogged wrote:
mr_wonderful wrote:I think i remember seeing on patrol4x4.com someone had the programing sequence for the keys so saves you a tow truck bill
Correct - for the remotes, but not the keys. :(
you are right just checked with my mate thats a service foreman and he said they acutally have to take out the BCM to program the keys
sorry guys
cheers

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:02 pm
by bogged
mr_wonderful wrote:
bogged wrote:
mr_wonderful wrote:I think i remember seeing on patrol4x4.com someone had the programing sequence for the keys so saves you a tow truck bill
Correct - for the remotes, but not the keys. :(
you are right just checked with my mate thats a service foreman and he said they acutally have to take out the BCM to program the keys
sorry guys
cheers
so how is it done, is it something we got hold of th software we could do?? :angel:

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:11 pm
by shw337
have to have the key in the ignition with the nissan computer pluged in with a key programing disk, which gives you instructions . e.g turn ign. on then off take key out repeate seven times...

and this somehow reprograms the computer to accept the keys

something along those lines from memory

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:21 pm
by kc_ksom
Hey guys

They need to connect the diagnosic tool, and program the BCM (computer) to except the new key transponder thing ma jig (in the key head) this can only be done with the particular scan tool, and yes there will most likley be a series of processes to re code.

Bogged
This was my spare key, I lost my original key and remote last year, lol..

Mr wonderful
I had to get the key cut from the factory as I had no spare key, once I have a key I can get another cut no probs, but only a select few have the ability to match the transponder thing in the key head...

Casey

locking keys IN the car

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:49 pm
by fatsogq
..........

Re: locking keys IN the car

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:03 pm
by troll85
fatsogq wrote:if you lock your keys in the car and they have a remote on them and you have a spare set at home get the missus(she should be home anyway) to point the spare remote at her mobile phone while shes talking to you and you point your phone at the car door it will open no coat hanger headaches!!
thats the bigest load of shit hahahahahahahahahahahaha u need to watch tv more

Re: locking keys IN the car

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:05 pm
by bogged
rixcruiza wrote:
fatsogq wrote:if you lock your keys in the car and they have a remote on them and you have a spare set at home get the missus(she should be home anyway) to point the spare remote at her mobile phone while shes talking to you and you point your phone at the car door it will open no coat hanger headaches!!
thats the bigest load of shit hahahahahahahahahahahaha u need to watch tv more
I was waiting for someone else to say that for me.... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Re: Dont loose your keys (02 Patrol)

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:10 pm
by JWB
kc_ksom wrote:I lost my keys, remotes everything, turns out the key has a transponder in the key head and needs to be programed, but to order a new key you need to bring in rego papers, photo id, then order, the key, it will come cut (but only if they can get the correct key number) then i need to pick the key up, take it home, open the car and move out of the garage and into the street so i can get a tilt tray to pick it up, then tow it to the dealer so they can re program the BCM or what ever to take the new key, then code the remote to suit. what a barstard!!!! All up it will be around $340.00 and thats with a cheap rate tow truck PRICKS!!!!!

Dont leave ya keys lying around in easy reach of your young fella's...

Casey
If you can get by without the car for a day or 2 I would,
1. upgrade to / or join RACQ ultracare = free towing
2. This could even get you access to a ( cheaper rate ) lock smith
whom might be able to help.??
3. then you would the balance of the years membership benefits?
4. Take it as a lesson and allways have a working 2nd set of keys/remote

hope you get it sorted!
cheers

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:05 pm
by phippsey
Have to admit something I've always been worried about with these NATS keys, I only have one and nissan want a fortune for another one.

Is it different for the 4.2s?? I have a basic key cut, but have never tried to actually start the car! :armsup: - it at least opens the doors :D

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:21 pm
by j-top paj
just went outside to the GU and tried the 3rd key...
opens the door (but useless if i have activated my alarm or deadlocked the doors)
tried to start it and it did for about 2secs and then shut down.
tried again and each time it would just fire for a fraction of a second and then shut down.


id say all GUs would be the same..

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:13 am
by bogged
j-top paj wrote:just went outside to the GU and tried the 3rd key...
opens the door (but useless if i have activated my alarm or deadlocked the doors)
tried to start it and it did for about 2secs and then shut down.
tried again and each time it would just fire for a fraction of a second and then shut down...
What he says. Mine does the same...

I had 2 blanks cut at Mr Minute, they open the doors, they start it, runs for few seconds and stops. :(

At least useful if you lock the keys in car, you can open doors.

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:38 am
by BrettInUte
I have a locksmith mate who can (has for me) copy an existing GU key.

He can cut a new blank + copy the "codes" off your existing key to the new generic "blank" chip.

Takes special equipment to do it though.

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:10 pm
by kc_ksom
BrettInUte

Yea thats the go, I have found a place that can do it, I will get a cost sorted and I will post it up.

Casey

Im all sorted by the way.