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Mod Plates and Engineers Reports.
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:09 pm
by GeeUte
Just wondering if anyone knows if engineers reports or mod plates are transferable from state to state ?
For example, if I do a few mods and get it engineered and mod plated in QLD and then move to NSW or SA later on, will it have to be re-enginered once in the given state to pass rego and roadworthy ?
Is there any engineers on the forum from QLD ?
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:17 pm
by KUSTOMV840
When I moved from qld to nsw with my 40 the mod plate ment jacksh*t. I was going to have to get it engineered, blue slip then rego. I just shifted the qld address to a mates place and kept paying the rego for a while. Now it off the road getting a resto.
Re: Mod Plates and Engineers Reports.
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:21 pm
by bogged
Somethings yes
- eg, mate does dual cab conversions. Did a top job on a GU, engineered in Vic... Owner picked it up, drove back to Shitney to RTA - engineers no good.. Needed to be re-engineered in NSW...
great system.
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:51 pm
by Ausi fj
I bought an ice cream franchise about 4 years ago. My brand new truck (no rego at this stage) was sent to Qld to be modified and engineers cert, when it came back to NSW it had Qld blue mod plate and NSW rego. You must be able to do it, but I was not involved in getting the mods done. Speak to RTA about it first.
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:24 pm
by -Scott-
My understanding is that, generally speaking, modifications approval processes are state based, and interstate reports are next to meaningless.
When I had my Paj engineered in SA, the engineer said he has to "do something" to keep SA Transport happy. Measurements, calculations, tests - without them, they wouldn't accept his report. Interstate reports done by interstate people to interstate regulations aren't acceptable.
Unfortunately, we are a Federation of states, with each state making their own rules and regulations. This is just one of the consequences.
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:40 pm
by GeeUte
Bugger.
It sounds like to big a headache and to much paperwork. Especially when you change your postcode as frequent as I have to.
So has anyone just run the gauntlet ? Done a few mods and not got them engineered ?
Im not talking 8 inch lifts and x links but subtle mods that dont stand out to much.
What's the worst that can happen ?
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:10 am
by bazzle
GeeUte wrote:Bugger.
It sounds like to big a headache and to much paperwork. Especially when you change your postcode as frequent as I have to.
So has anyone just run the gauntlet ? Done a few mods and not got them engineered ?
Im not talking 8 inch lifts and x links but subtle mods that dont stand out to much.
What's the worst that can happen ?
Worse??
Some subtle mods lead to larger issues.
Kill someone or badly injure..
No Insurance. not roadworthy,, no TAC ?
Sued by family and your financially and mentally FCUKED for life.
Talk to the Engineer. Some can do multi State apps.
Bazzle
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:17 am
by Newhouse
Mate ive hit the same hurdle. Got my 4wd engineered in QLD, moved to NSW and have to get it done again. Its painful having to pay twice but its un-avoidable. Especially when the price i paid in QLD was $150 and Im getting quotes for around $700 down here!
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:08 am
by KUSTOMV840
Some mods can be interstate, if you buy say a kit from marks adapters and the like.
I bought a engine mounting kit to put a V8 into my xp falcon off The Rod Shop in Victoria and it comes with a certificate that allows you to register the car in any state in Australia.
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:51 am
by mkpatrol
KUSTOMV840 wrote:Some mods can be interstate, if you buy say a kit from marks adapters and the like.
I bought a engine mounting kit to put a V8 into my xp falcon off The Rod Shop in Victoria and it comes with a certificate that allows you to register the car in any state in Australia.
I would love to see you try it then especially in NSW BWAHAHAHA.
I think you would find it is meant to be an attatchment to an engineers report.
NSW will not accept any modifications unless the report is in the format approved by them (there is a bulletin on the RTA website). NSW have a list of approved engineers for which they accept engineerign certs from but the certs need to be to the RTA format & regs.
In the ACT, queensland mod plates ave been accepted on their face value but only if the owner of the vehicle notifies QLD Trenasport of the mod. Even if the vehicle has a plate on it, if QLD T dont know about it then too bad start again.
VIC roads will accept Engineering reports from other states but it is on a case by case basis.
Dont know about the other states.
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:57 am
by KUSTOMV840
mkpatrol wrote:KUSTOMV840 wrote:Some mods can be interstate, if you buy say a kit from marks adapters and the like.
I bought a engine mounting kit to put a V8 into my xp falcon off The Rod Shop in Victoria and it comes with a certificate that allows you to register the car in any state in Australia.
I would love to see you try it then especially in NSW BWAHAHAHA.
I think you would find it is meant to be an attatchment to an engineers report.
NSW will not accept any modifications unless the report is in the format approved by them (there is a bulletin on the RTA website). NSW have a list of approved engineers for which they accept engineerign certs from but the certs need to be to the RTA format & regs.
In the ACT, queensland mod plates ave been accepted on their face value but only if the owner of the vehicle notifies QLD Trenasport of the mod. Even if the vehicle has a plate on it, if QLD T dont know about it then too bad start again.
VIC roads will accept Engineering reports from other states but it is on a case by case basis.
Dont know about the other states.
I know for fact that the kit I got from the ROd Shop is approved. He has the kit registered with all RTA, QDP VIc roads etc. I did this 10 yrs ago so maybe things have changed?
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:42 pm
by mkpatrol
Fair chance it has, they changed a lot of this in the late 90's.
There is a guy in Mitchell that does diff swaps with an engineers cert but all he is certifying is the mod to the diff, it still needs to be certified in a particular vehicle, this is the technicality.
With all the states being different it would be hard for him to have a blanket engineering certificate approved for a set of components to use in any vehicle.
Here is the RTA bulletin (you buggers were too lazy to search
) :
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... v_2008.pdf
Another, but I think this one is to deal with the NCOP:
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... v_2007.pdf
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:45 pm
by mkpatrol