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Possible to replace g/box shifter bush on Sierra?

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:54 pm
by mike_nofx
The bush on my gearbox shifter (the one that sits above the 'ball') has disintegrated, so the stick has a fair bit of up and down play.

I tried to order a new bush through local suzuki dealer but apparently they only sell it as one part complete with the shifter. Does this sound right? I didnt enquire about a new complete shifter price. (i also ordered a new output seal, $11.50)

How have people got around this? Is there a bush below the ball?

Also, for the information of other forum members, it really does pay to shop around at wreckers! The quotes i got from different wreckers were $400, $400, $440, $660, $675 + my old box trade in!, AND $250!

I bought the $250 one, from a place where you remove your own parts.
This new box actually feels as good as a brand new box. BUT needs a new bush.

Thanks
Mike

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:17 pm
by mrw82
PM bruceh on here. he will be able to send you one.

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:04 pm
by Turbo Tonka
suzuispares.com do a full reco gearbox for $595 exchange for yours.Seems like you got a pretty good price in the end anyway.Ive been looking for one of late too.

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:34 am
by Gwagensteve
mrw82 wrote:PM bruceh on here. he will be able to send you one.
How do you fit them? It's always looked to me like the upper bush and retaining plate was fitted before the gearlever was pressed/vulcanised on. I can't see an obvious way of replacing it without damage.

A urethane one might have enough give to slip over the ball I guess?

Steve.

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:49 am
by Highway-Star
Gwagensteve wrote:How do you fit them? It's always looked to me like the upper bush and retaining plate was fitted before the gearlever was pressed/vulcanised on. I can't see an obvious way of replacing it without damage.

X2, I just put another gearlever with a good bush in mine. (lucky I had one lying around).

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:58 am
by Bruceh
You need to remove the gear knob and slip it on that way. :cool:

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:06 am
by Gwagensteve
Knob or lever?

The retaining plate with the three holes in it won't clear the lever AFAIK and that's between the bush and the lever

Sorry, not nit picking - there is a need for this part, I just can't get in my head how it can be replaced.

Steve.

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:29 am
by Highway-Star
Bruceh wrote:You need to remove the gear knob and slip it on that way. :cool:
Yep, I hope I didn't appear that dumb in my above post :oops:

OK I just went and had a look at my old lever which sadly has no bush left. Refer to my diagram below. part 19 is rubber and can be stretched over the lever, though it is slightly painful. part 14 clears lever. part 21 clears lever by the smallest of margins. But when I remember looking at the lever that is now in my car, I thought the hole on the actual bush was too small... (ie just cleared the narrow neck above the ball. Oh well, my mistake.

WRT the orginal post by mike_nofx, the below diagram is from a Suzuki parts catalogue. It does not list a part number for that bush, which confirms the bad response from your Zuk dealer.

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:41 am
by Gwagensteve
Like you, I wasn't aware that part 14 cleared the lever, but the fact the bush doesn't have a number confirms to me that it isn't considered replaceable.

However, knowing that part 14 is replaceable confirms that Bruce's urethane replacement can be fitted.

Now I understand!

Thanks all.

Steve.

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:45 am
by Bruceh
No worries guys, It's not hard to replace. Remember to put the gear stick in neutral so when replacing the stick it slips straight back in. I learn't the hard way and took a while to get it back in. :oops:

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:48 am
by nicbeer
that bolt
no. is 12
this helps with shifter slop.

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:07 am
by Gwagensteve
There's also 2 sizes of bolt #12 and they have correspondingly different width slots in the ball on the lever.

Make sure the bolt is in good nick, the slot is in good nick, and you have the right size bolt and slot.

(*ahem* Good advice for life, really :D)

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:44 am
by ScrawnC
Gwagensteve wrote:Make sure the bolt is in good nick, the slot is in good nick, and you have the right size bolt and slot.

(*ahem* Good advice for life, really :D)
Always quick with the good advice Steve!! :D

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:36 pm
by Guy
Gwagensteve wrote:There's also 2 sizes of bolt #12 and they have correspondingly different width slots in the ball on the lever.

Make sure the bolt is in good nick, the slot is in good nick, and you have the right size bolt and slot.

(*ahem* Good advice for life, really :D)
And don't cross thread it. There are soooo many ways this could all go wrong from here .... MUST RESIST ... ;)

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:31 pm
by Taff
and dont drop the bolt into the box, you might never get it out.