Outer Limits 4x4 Board

how safe or unsafe are they?....i was thinking of using some 38mm ones on the road...i know they r illegal....

steel ones are ok. I had a pair on the back of the bundy for a year, they never caused any vibration, never came loose. the trick is to make sure they're done up TIGHT (I made a special wheelbrace from a spark plug socket and a regular wheelbrace).

I have heard a couple of horror stories from people running alloy ones on the road, coming loose, which would be pretty bad.

Could you not use locktite?

the alloy ones have different thermal properties to the discs/drums

they expand and contract differently to steel

ahh...cool....

Wheel bearing eaters..

Bazzle

how long did u get before they were stuffed bazzle?

how many of you guys are telling these stories about running on them on road?

i am interested in gettting a set but only will be whereing them off road.

bundyboy wrote:i am interested in gettting a set but only will be whereing them off road.

OUCH... bondage has just taken on a new meaning !!!

I had 1.5" ones on the front, and 3" ones on that rear of the surf. At first i noticed they were starting to come loose [i used to swap them on for offroad], but after about 3 trips they never did it again. The general consensus on that was it was the new studs stretching. After that i stopped swapping them and just left them on all the time, probably did about 4000k's on them, never had any wheel bearing issues. It's the same as running custom offset rims, yes they'll wear the kingpin/wheel bearings out faster, and oh my god they might be putting more stress on your steering, but for gods sakes, we're driving 4wd's here, more often that not with 35" + rubber, in mud sand and what not...get over it !! If you want the width then deal with any wear issues that arise from it.

Jeremy

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and oh my god they might be putting more stress on your steering, but for gods sakes, we're driving 4wd's here, more often that not with 35" + rubber, in mud sand and what not...get over it !! If you want the width then deal with any wear issues that arise from it.

Jeremy [/quote]

(Engineering rant - on) The wheel offset is designed to spread the load evenly over the inner and outer wheel bearings. By spacing the load out 3", the stress on the stubs increases significantly. It's not just wear issues - ever had a wheel come off at speed? I had a mag centre shear (left rear) at 100km/hr with my pregant wife and 2 friends on board. We survived, but the potential for a fatality was there. There's a reason for rules, even if we don't agree with a lot of them. That's what you pay the engineer for, to make sure your vehicle is safe, and not going to kill you, or God forbid some innocent bystander (Engineering rant - off)

The centre line of the wheel is still the same wheather it has 50mm offset rim or a 50mm wheel spacer.

Got an email acouple of days ago saying that wheel spacers only go over the sttuds that are there, their for shortening the avaible stud length for a nut, these are illegal. But hub spacers are what we use as they bolt to the standard studs and have a new set in them and these are legal.

I`m not saying this is true or not true as I myself don`t know and don`t really care as I run my 50mm spacers all the time legal or not.

Can somebody shead some more light on this

we have approval for wheel spacers / adapters as part of the rear disc brake conversions we wo on the Manx Buggies. Ours ore only 12mm plate though and used to go back to standard stud pattern from ford.

The guy down the coast sells Disc kits which use factory studs to hold adapter on and new studs in adapter. His are approved and he has no issues with QLD Tpt.

I have been told that if you tack weld them on they are no longer spacers and are then part of hub / rim. Also as long as their sole purpose isn't to space it seems to be viewed in a different light.

No really a good answer but my Code of Prac is out ATM.