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Hi guys i have a swb patrol and have been looking around at lift kits and there is many out there and i was wondering what is really needed to be purchased do a 3 inch lift and have it drive normal and also is there any advantage to a 3 inch coil and 4 inch shock any direction in this matter would be great
thanks in advance

i would like to buy every thing that is needed straight away so i can fit it all at once

i had a 2" spring lift on mine and i had to lower the gearbox to get rid of vibration but that was it. i also put a 40mm body lift on it as i read that you dont need any real modifications if you keep it under 40mm. the only issue was the low range lever, i just cut the floor as well as removing the bottom shroud on the radiator and stretch the vibration coil on the brake line.

There's no point lowering the gearbox crossmember as you might as well not lift the car, unless you just want a poser rig. You only need to adjust the pinion angle to address driveshaft vibrations not lower the gearbox. There's plenty of threads on it so it will pay to search.

To do 3 inch on a shorty you need, springs, shocks, panhards, lower rear control arms, castor correction, brake lines, sway bar extensions/disconnects (if you want it to drive 'normal'), and drag link. Search is your friend. Spend a bit of time going through old posts to learn from everyone else's mistakes and you won't have to do poor mods like bodylifts and lowering gearboxes.

Nelso wrote:There's no point lowering the gearbox crossmember as you might as well not lift the car, unless you just want a poser rig. You only need to adjust the pinion angle to address driveshaft vibrations not lower the gearbox. There's plenty of threads on it so it will pay to search.

To do 3 inch on a shorty you need, springs, shocks, panhards, lower rear control arms, castor correction, brake lines, sway bar extensions/disconnects (if you want it to drive 'normal'), and drag link. Search is your friend. Spend a bit of time going through old posts to learn from everyone else's mistakes and you won't have to do poor mods like bodylifts and lowering gearboxes.

You're saying you don't benefit from a 3" lift if you have to lower your gearbox by 10mm?
Yes there are other ways around it, but I have a shorty GU with a 3" lift, NO replacement panhards, and run drop boxes (which lower the gearbox ) so there must be a lot of "posers" out there with drop boxes

KIWI wrote:

Nelso wrote:There's no point lowering the gearbox crossmember as you might as well not lift the car, unless you just want a poser rig. You only need to adjust the pinion angle to address driveshaft vibrations not lower the gearbox. There's plenty of threads on it so it will pay to search.

To do 3 inch on a shorty you need, springs, shocks, panhards, lower rear control arms, castor correction, brake lines, sway bar extensions/disconnects (if you want it to drive 'normal'), and drag link. Search is your friend. Spend a bit of time going through old posts to learn from everyone else's mistakes and you won't have to do poor mods like bodylifts and lowering gearboxes.

You're saying you don't benefit from a 3" lift if you have to lower your gearbox by 10mm?
Yes there are other ways around it, but I have a shorty GU with a 3" lift, NO replacement panhards, and run drop boxes (which lower the gearbox ) so there must be a lot of "posers" out there with drop boxes

So are you suggesting the best way to lift a 4wd 3 inches is to leave the standard panhards in and drop the gearbox crossmember? I'm glad I don't live in NZ if that's the preferred way to modify 4wds.

Yes you can do a half arsed job and leave standard panhards and draglink in but he asked what he needed to do to have it drive like normal and that means doing things properly. Offset diffs and your steering wheel pointing to the left when driving in a straight line is not exactly driving like normal is it? Dropping your gearbox crossmember is also a cheap and nasty fix and offers a nice anchor to get hung up on things as it is further back from drop boxes and reduces your ramp-over angle. As I suggested, if you do not care about ramp-over angle because you don't want to go offroad and just want it to look big, ie a poser rig, then just go ahead and lower the crossmember.

Now if you are finished being all defensive about the way you chose to modify your car we can all get on with our lives as there is far more important things to do with our time than argue over petty sh!t with people you don't even know on the internet.

Like I said, there are different ways around it, so if people don't have the money to do drag links etc, it will still drive fine until you can afford the extra mods, but to call people "posers" because they choose to use gearbox spacers is a little over the top don't you think?
Instead of crap like that, why not give reasons for your answers.

Of course, I was just giving my opinion, and saying that I have not used all the parts you say that you NEED, but hey, if you don't like someone having a different opinion, I couldn't care less.

To say it is pointless running gearbox spacers with a 3" lift is pointless because you lose too much ground clearance is a little strange, you have just gained 3" in clearance, plus the bigger tyres, so what if you drop it the box 10mm?
Also, the other point I was making drop boxes lower the gearbox too, so no different to a gearbox spacer..........

Before telling people what the NEED, why not suggest what YOU think is BEST for them

Nelso wrote:

To do 3 inch on a shorty you need, springs, shocks,

And lower your gear box 10mm to stop vibrations Thats what I am running and 10mm is very small loss as I gained 4 inches with lift and tyres, it still handles like stock on road.

by lowering my gearbox it drove standard. $80 vs ????, if moneys no option why not go 4" and get all the good stuff theres not much difference in price between 3" and 6" lifts.

heres a few pics of my cousins GQ shorty with a 3'' EFS spring lift
& a 3'' body lift running 37'' maxxis, he also has the 10mm gearbox spacer...

That looks NICE gq351 how about a pic of the rig next to it??

twodiffs wrote:That looks NICE gq351 how about a pic of the rig next to it??

thanks mate!! heres a few pics of the other one (brothers 92 mavrick) 351 cleveland v8, 4'' spring lift, 3'' body & 37''s...

how do i put a pic of my lifted shorty up?

TomSeth wrote:how do i put a pic of my lifted shorty up?

i uploaded them to (photobucket) first & then sent them to this site, its abit of stuffing around!! its took me a while to work it out!! try it in the testing part of this site to see if it works...

gq351 wrote:heres a few pics of my cousins GQ shorty with a 3'' EFS spring lift
& a 3'' body lift running 37'' maxxis, he also has the 10mm gearbox spacer...

Any problems with tyre's rubbing? Adjustable upper rear arms, or just the spacer?
Definately looks the part, Nice shorty.

Nah havent noticed it rub on anything yet, the gaurds have been cut to the body line & trimed on the edges, but hes running wide wheels & tyres 37'' x 14.50 on 15x10 rims, no adjustable arms just the gearbox spacer!! & havent had a drama yet..

whats the point of having a 3 inch body lift if your going to cut guards anyway? would it not be better money spent to get bigger springs and have more travel??

This isn't my SWB, I like this set up, 3inch supesnion lift + cut gaurds + 37s.

thanks guys i think i will go the 3 inch as i already have a 2 inch body and buy the look of those photos i wont have any drama in fitting a 35 under it cheers

forefold wrote:whats the point of having a 3 inch body lift if your going to cut guards anyway? would it not be better money spent to get bigger springs and have more travel??

yeah this is true but its not my car & with no body lift he would of had to go a min 7'' spring lift then it gets to floaty!

that grey shorty looks tough as!! love the wheels & flares

SIM79 wrote:This isn't my SWB, I like this set up, 3inch supesnion lift + cut gaurds + 37s.

Liken those flare's, where can i get some!!?? They kinda look like jeep flare's..

thanks sim, got it sorted now

my mav with 4.5 inch inch lift + 2 inch body lift, pic with siver rims is 35's rest are 33's

TomSeth wrote:how do i put a pic of my lifted shorty up?

you worked out how to put up the pics! its a pain in the ass aint it

looks nice mate

gq351 wrote:

TomSeth wrote:how do i put a pic of my lifted shorty up?

you worked out how to put up the pics! its a pain in the ass aint it

looks nice mate

hehe yeah after some help, thanks im pretty happy with it, does most things well except reach over rock steeps, they doesnt have the reach like the LWB's do :(
Tom

MONGREL wrote:
Liken those flare's, where can i get some!!?? They kinda look like jeep flare's..

Originally Posted by giantracing
i have the moulds and can make you a pair of ice lantic flares for a gu about 5 ' wide. can fit huge offset wheels on. also for any body else i do GQ icelantic flares and GQ guards as well.

GU FLARES -$ 750 PAIR
GQ FLARES -$ 650 PAIR FRONT
GQ FLARES -$ 500 PAIR REAR
GQ FRONT GUARDS-$ 750 PAIR

Custom 4wd Creations Brisbane
0438279890

Its pity that you can't get these flares in stock width

SIM79 wrote:

MONGREL wrote:
Liken those flare's, where can i get some!!?? They kinda look like jeep flare's..

Originally Posted by giantracing
i have the moulds and can make you a pair of ice lantic flares for a gu about 5 ' wide. can fit huge offset wheels on. also for any body else i do GQ icelantic flares and GQ guards as well.

GU FLARES -$ 750 PAIR
GQ FLARES -$ 650 PAIR FRONT
GQ FLARES -$ 500 PAIR REAR
GQ FRONT GUARDS-$ 750 PAIR

Custom 4wd Creations Brisbane
0438279890

Its pity that you can't get these flares in stock width

Thanks SIM, $1150.00 a set Pay for what you like i guess, wouldn't want to rub a tree with them!

MONGREL wrote:wouldn't want to rub a tree with them!

x everythingteen..

2"springs 2" body lift 33's

4" springs 2" body 2" gaurd cut 33s

4" springs 2" body gaurd chop 38s

4" springs gaurd chop 35s

bogged wrote:

MONGREL wrote:wouldn't want to rub a tree with them!

x everythingteen..

Huh??

mud_runner_GQ wrote:4" springs gaurd chop 35s

what diffs is that runnin, 5 stud?

mud_runner_GQ wrote:2"springs 2" body lift 33's

4" springs gaurd chop 35s

Both have 4 inch lift but the bottom one looks heaps higher.