Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Hey all, We've got an 80 series crusier and no matter how we adjust the hand brake it just won't hold. I've heard you can get an aftermarket part that is a "disc handbrake that will go onto the back of the transfer case". and that's suppose to improve the brake but i can't seem to find any info.
Any thoughts at all would be wonderfull. ta

Not sure on a disc brake kit, but i konw darren mccrae from autofract down in geelong sells modified shoes and dogbones that work very well from all reports. His user name is assassin_offroad and would definately be able to help you out

Pull the rear disc apart and put new pads in the drum section, clean out any and all oil.

The 80 series handbrake does need constant adjustment, I take off my rotors and clean evrything up after every mud run otherwise it won't work.

Well adjusted it will confortably hold in neutral on the hill on my street (very steep) with a 1.5t trailer behind.

I beleive Hopper Stoppers make a disk style hand brake 100 series and cost around 2g's so i dont see them selling too many kits.

my mechanic says mines well adjusted, it still won't hold enough to feel safe leaving it on a hill unless the engines stopped and it's in gear. any other ideas??

Have you pulled it apart and had a look?

They easily fill up with mud etc.... Which can eat away shoes in days.

I wouldn't know where to start. I'm a girl. only got the brakes done recently new shoes/ pads the whole lot and havent been near any mud.. stupid car.

As DJH stated, we do a different hand brake material, and modified pivots for 80 series, which improves the hand brake by 50% I guess, as the best way to describe it, still not a Patrol handbrake, but it will hold on a hill, or in the driveway at least.

We do them change over.

Adjustment also HAS to be done by the book, to be correct, so it is within spec, trying to adjust the cable, and not the shoes will only make it harder to get right.

Assassin_Offroad wrote:As DJH stated, we do a different hand brake material, and modified pivots for 80 series, which improves the hand brake by 50% I guess, as the best way to describe it, still not a Patrol handbrake, but it will hold on a hill, or in the driveway at least.

We do them change over.

Adjustment also HAS to be done by the book, to be correct, so it is within spec, trying to adjust the cable, and not the shoes will only make it harder to get right.

Darren, having mates with patrols, their handbrakes are just as bad, but i dare say that is a maintenance issue as apposed to a design issue

Just cruizin, you may also find that the transfer case system wont fit without body lift either, another thing to consider, you could always carry around a couple of blocks of 100mm square post and chock your wheels? cheaper, but perhaps not as fancy

At least wit the chocks i'll know my car will stay where i leave it it's already had a small lift so maby.. will give assassin a call soon.

+dj_hansen+ wrote: another thing to consider, you could always carry around a couple of blocks of 100mm square post and chock your wheels? cheaper, but perhaps not as fancy

Cheaper isnt really an option when you drive a cruiser is it ?

Otherwise it would be a patrol, instead of a cruiser in the drive, if cost was the only consideration

Assassin_Offroad wrote:

+dj_hansen+ wrote: another thing to consider, you could always carry around a couple of blocks of 100mm square post and chock your wheels? cheaper, but perhaps not as fancy

Cheaper isnt really an option when you drive a cruiser is it ?

Otherwise it would be a patrol, instead of a cruiser in the drive, if cost was the only consideration

If cost was the consideration, it would probably be a moke, or a corolla or something

However, in terms of cost you have to find a mid point between wants, needs, cheap, expensive, quality, reliability, and bling... quantam mechanics involves simpler equations i think

Just cruizin, there is a difference between body lift and suspension lift, the transfer case brake may require extra space between the body and the drivetrain (which is effectively fixed in place to the chassis) crawl under your car and have a good squiz at what is going on and it should make a bit more sense

Hi, I work on 147 land cruisers from 75 series through to the new 70 series V8 cominrail diesel [uts,troopys & wagons] at a mine site in N.S.W. All of which have problems with the hand brake. I tried the transfer hand brake from hopper stoppers and found it worked really well but it wore out really quick which meant we were back where we started.In hopper stoppers defence though I think the ground conditions played a huge part in the were time. I tried a fair selection of after market hand brake shoes and rotors but to no avail until we went back to genuine Toyota shoes and rotors. In saying that you must make sure there is NO movement or were in the hand brake shoe assembly at all. A good example is check the bell crank [ lever that goes through backing plate and joins to hand brake cable] as that is often forgotten about. hope this helps as I have spent a lot of time and money in this area.[/u]

hi have a turbo 80 petrol heaps of power crap hand brake adjusted and worn out many times thinking of trying high pressure air into the backing plate to keep mud dust water out or get it out with out removal of disk any one tried this

silver fox wrote:Hi, I work on 147 land cruisers from 75 series through to the new 70 series V8 cominrail diesel [uts,troopys & wagons] at a mine site in N.S.W. All of which have problems with the hand brake. I tried the transfer hand brake from hopper stoppers and found it worked really well but it wore out really quick which meant we were back where we started.In hopper stoppers defence though I think the ground conditions played a huge part in the were time. I tried a fair selection of after market hand brake shoes and rotors but to no avail until we went back to genuine Toyota shoes and rotors. In saying that you must make sure there is NO movement or were in the hand brake shoe assembly at all. A good example is check the bell crank [ lever that goes through backing plate and joins to hand brake cable] as that is often forgotten about. hope this helps as I have spent a lot of time and money in this area.[/u]

Anyone tried to mount a Patrol handbrake on the back of the tcase?