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ive looked for hours on the net to try find some wheel spacers for my sierra!!

havent found a thing!! (unless i import from usa)

can anyone help me with someone who sells them?

thanks

http://www.locktup4x4.com.au/
sell them

many thanks!!

Contact Alan Johnson at Piranah Offroad he's got them in melb.
Price?...

You looked for hours yet didn't find the brokenstudloosenutsstuffedbearingslostwheelsdearerthannewrimsillegalzilliontyfive threads about spacers?

really, really make sure you need them before you part out the hard earned. There's a reason why they often crop up 2nd hand.

PS "my car is too narrow" is another way of saying it's too tall.

PPS if you have funky alloys and are narrow track, disregard what I've said above and consider spacers. I'm not having a go at you, there just rarely a good idea.

Steve.

Gwagensteve wrote:You looked for hours yet didn't find the brokenstudloosenutsstuffedbearingslostwheelsdearerthannewrimsillegalzilliontyfive threads about spacers?

really, really make sure you need them before you part out the hard earned. There's a reason why they often crop up 2nd hand.

PS "my car is too narrow" is another way of saying it's too tall.

PPS if you have funky alloys and are narrow track, disregard what I've said above and consider spacers. I'm not having a go at you, there just rarely a good idea.

Steve.

I was at Tempe Tyres last weekend and watched as they installed 1" (front) and 1.5" (rear) spacers on a brand new XR6T ute. I was really suprised the mechanic would do it since they're illegal. They ended up removing the rear spacers because the new rubber band tyres fouled on the guard.

They're required to fit territory/AY/BA/BF/FG wheels to older falcons too.

Doesn't make it right

Steve.

try www.snakeraceing.com.au they have them in all diffrent sizes PS if you are any good with a welder get steel rims and cut the center out and weld in back in this is what i did and it looks alot more roadworthy than spacers, saves money to.

if your running steel wheels ring eastern wheel works they will remove and reweld your centers to desired offset and its legal.
usually about $55 per wheel,but you''l have to repaint them yourself.
cheers andrew

Far too many examples around of them working loose for my liking - advice on modifying steel wheels is far better.

Perhaps its a problem with alloy ones, as Matt at TT Drivelines didn't blink when I discussed steel rings to adapt stud patterns - and IMO he's an extrememly good guide to what's not going to work/last.

And you haven't overlooked the extra loading your placing on the wheel bearings....... ?

I agree on getting the rims offset before doing the spacers.

I don't like having that many nuts to possibly come loose, torqued correctly or not. I regularly work on cars with factory spacers and they have a completely different mount system.

The only spacers that spark my interest are the 5 to 6 stud adaptors.

But plenty of people run them with no issue and that's fine, more power to them, but not for me.

thanks for all the help everybody!!!

here is the decision:
im going to buy some just for now as a short term thing, until i have to funds to get longer diffs for the extra width!!

once again thank you all!

my wheel fell off. May i suggest offroad use only

mrRocky wrote:my wheel fell off. May i suggest offroad use only

you should play with your nuts more often

peat4x4 wrote:thanks for all the help everybody!!!

here is the decision:
im going to buy some just for now as a short term thing, until i have to funds to get longer diffs for the extra width!!

once again thank you all!

why do you need wider diffs?

What is your current setup and why do you think it is too narrow?

Buying spacers as a "cheap" option isn't exactly cheap.

i bought a set of 22"s (for my on road wheels) and he guy at the mitcham tyre factory said "if will drill a new stud pattern into them they will fit straight on" seems the kind gentlemen lied to get himself a sale and now wont take the wheels back because i "told them to modify them"

so yeah i got stooged and now i want my wheels to fit!!

i know spacers are illegal for on road use and all that, but its a risk im willing to take

MightyMouse wrote: - advice on modifying steel wheels is far better.

And you haven't overlooked the extra loading your placing on the wheel bearings....... ?

Widening the track by cutting the centers and repositioning them is fine, but spacers to get the same track width puts extra strain on the wheel bearing, er ?? maybe im reading wrong.

I agree with the bigger offset, but both put exactly the same strain on the bearings.

offset rims and spacers both put extra load on the bearings.

offset rims are more preferable since there are no extra nuts and bolts to do up/come loose

if u insist on going for wheel spacers then check the studs arnt made from gaay material, i had to replace mine with EF falcon studs.
Also you have to check them every few hundred km's of they work themselfs off.

mrRocky wrote:if u insist on going for wheel spacers then check the studs arnt made from gaay material, i had to replace mine with EF falcon studs.
Also you have to check them every few hundred km's of they work themselfs off.

thanks for the advice! i'll be sure to be very cautious with them!!

peat4x4 wrote:i bought a set of 22"s (for my on road wheels) and he guy at the mitcham tyre factory said "if will drill a new stud pattern into them they will fit straight on" seems the kind gentlemen lied to get himself a sale and now wont take the wheels back because i "told them to modify them"

so yeah i got stooged and now i want my wheels to fit!!

i know spacers are illegal for on road use and all that, but its a risk im willing to take

I'm lost.

So you've bought 22" rims to go on your Sierra. They weren't the right stud pattern so you got the Tyre factory to drill a new stud pattern in these wheels and now they still don't fit so you want to put wheel spacers on to fix the problem.

Is that right?

So what does the longer diffs thing mean and how will that make a difference if it is a wheel stud pattern problem?

I'd be taking the rims back if they have "modified" them by changing the stud pattern, or to everyone else ruining them.

Peat, please write clearly you're post about how you got into this mess is too hard to understand.


"if will drill a new stud pattern into them they will fit straight on"

WHO re-drilled the stud pattern?

Did you take delivery of wheels that didn't fit on the studs but take the tyre guys word they would fit once the pattern was changed?

i "told them to modify them"

So they're claiming you instructed them to drill the wheels?

What don't they clear? Is it a centre bore problem? - i.e is the wheel centre fouling the freewheeling hub?
What width are they?
Is it an offset problem? Is the wheel fouling the shock mount/chassis/springs? What offset are the 22" rims you have now?

Who is telling you they will fit with wheel spacers?

There's a lot of wrong in this story. Clearly someone sold you an unsuitable product and isn't taking responsibility for the stuff up.

However, you might well be stuck with another unsuitable product (a set of spacers that won't actually help the rims clear.

In any case, 22's on a sierra? It's going to drive like a turd. That's alot of money to burn to have a car that is less functional than it was stock, but that's just my 2C


In short though, two wrongs (22" rims + spacers) don't make a right.

Steve.

hi steve here is the full story..

i bought some 22"s after the guy at the wheel shop said
"they will fit straight on if we re-drill the stud pattern and bore out the centre"

when i got the wheels home, they fit over the studs and the bore was big enough, though the wheels just fall short of the hub as they hit the leaf springs.

the car will just be used for driving very short distances with the 22"s on (ie. gettin to work which is within 15km and going down the shops)

i called the guy at the wheel shop and explained to him that he sold me wheels that dont fit my car, and that i only agreed to re-drilling them because he said they would fit after they were drilled.
he then said that it doesnt matter, i told them to go ahead with it, so i have to wear the costs and im stuck with the wheels!


the wheels have an offset of of 45 and are i think) 9.5" wide

Are the rims alone hitting or do you have tyres on them that are hitting ?

If you haven't fitted tyres yet you will have to add around about 1/2 inch for the tyre as well. What size spacers did you plan on getting you are going to need fairly big ones if you plan on turning any corners I would think.

I could have misunderstood it all though

Dude they didn't see you coming they sent for you....you've been touched...

thats wit tyres on, i was planning on gettin 1.5" spacers.. i only tried them on the back and measure the bore for the front..

im soo upset about the whole situation, now that its happened i just want the wheels to fit!!

every thing about it upsets me.. i've planned to use the governments $900 cash bonus thing to put towards suspension... will this help in any way? or should i put it towards somerthing else? (different rims isnt an option!!!) my stubborn-ness and determination has ruled that out (also that i guess im a bit of a fool for not just giving in!!)

GRPABT1 wrote:Dude they didn't see you coming they sent for you....you've been touched...

man believe me i'm a con-mans dream!!
im just too trusting!!
i guess i look at my morals and just expect people to think the same way!!
i'm young and naive and have A LOT of learning to do!!!

peat4x4 wrote:

GRPABT1 wrote:Dude they didn't see you coming they sent for you....you've been touched...

man believe me i'm a con-mans dream!!
im just too trusting!!
i guess i look at my morals and just expect people to think the same way!!
i'm young and naive and have A LOT of learning to do!!!

Sure theres plenty of people out there who will try to take advantage, but dont let it taint you, keep on the higher moral ground.

PJ.zook wrote:

peat4x4 wrote:

GRPABT1 wrote:Dude they didn't see you coming they sent for you....you've been touched...

man believe me i'm a con-mans dream!!
im just too trusting!!
i guess i look at my morals and just expect people to think the same way!!
i'm young and naive and have A LOT of learning to do!!!

Sure theres plenty of people out there who will try to take advantage, but dont let it taint you, keep on the higher moral ground.

yeah it does get me down and i hate it, but i was brought up too well and am proud of my morals to give in and be a poor quality human like a HIGH percentage of people out there these days!! (especially the people who are just tryin to make a quick buck!!)