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i like them they grip rock well better than the simex and stt that i have had.
they have not cut up as yet.
In clay i found them to grip very well compared to buckshots
On road handling is excellent for there size 37x12x16
only drama is that they crown alot so wear may be an issue.

Second best tyre known to man!

the best tyre's i've ever run!

i like the creepys but they can be a little on the heavy side to balance .

apart from that they are all good

GRIMACE wrote:Second best tyre known to man!

completely agree,

best tyre in all conditions bar mud.

too heavy for small vehicles and should be run on wider rims i.e. 12.5" wide tyres should be on 10" wide rims.

ride better on the road, sand, rock, gravel, trees, roots, etc then simex, swamper tsl, or boggers.

but only marginally better in mud than your average radial mud terrain in mud.

GRIMACE wrote:Second best tyre known to man!

best tyre known to man???


I run crawlers in 38x13R15 and being my first bias tyres i cant fault them. My only hassle (which i put down to high speed gravel at low pressure (8psi on a heavy GU ute)) is chipping of the tread face is happening quite rapidly.

Great on the rocks and good lateral grip. Lose dirt/rocky climbs seem fine, nothing to rave about (but again only my first bias tyres)

The crowning is an issue in the long run (my 13's are on 10" rims)

Oh and the thread that was up not long ago with ppl complaining about tyre size not matching stamp. Have not checked mine so cant confirm. but i guess a lot of tyre manufacturers state a larger size

PAUL


P.s> good idea on these tyre topics

I have the 35x12.5x15 on my lux, running on 10" rims, they have a lot of weight on them to balance.

Extremely happy with them, great on road, not that much road noise, and good in all conditions to me.

Only problem is cause they are soft is when you get up and going on the rough rocky tracks it takes a few chunks out of them.

I will buy them again

vanbox wrote:

GRIMACE wrote:Second best tyre known to man!

best tyre known to man???

Sticky Trepador

Whats the lowest safe tyre pressure you can run for creepys 12.5 inches wide fitted on a 10 inch wide rims with-out bead locks?

SIM79 wrote:Whats the lowest safe tyre pressure you can run for creepys 12.5 inches wide fitted on a 10 inch wide rims with-out bead locks?

Can't say for 10" wide rims, but I have run mine as low as 6psi with no locks for a year of bery frequent trips - about 2 or 3 per month - with only 1 tyre parting company with the rim.

I tend to run mine at 10psi with no locks on a 16x8 rim because I've found that to be a good pressure for a Rangie.

Maxxis site says a max of 30psi in the 35" Creepys, is this right? I have been running 40psi since I got them!

gabe wrote:Maxxis site says a max of 30psi in the 35" Creepys, is this right? I have been running 40psi since I got them!

That can be dangerous running them that high due to them being a bias contruction.
Bias tyres heat up fast when driven long distances and when they heat up the tyre pressures increase fast and can cause a tyre blow out.

SIM79 wrote:That can be dangerous running them that high due to them being a bias contruction.
Bias tyres heat up fast when driven long distances and when they heat up the tyre pressures increase fast and can cause a tyre blow out.

Not sure what that means, but no worries.
The wheel shop stuck 40 in them when I had them fitted.
I'll drop them to 30 I think....

Thanks

gabe wrote:Not sure what that means, but no worries.
The wheel shop stuck 40 in them when I had them fitted.

Many people have left tyre shops with 80psi in tyres before... And it usually appears to be the slowest person on site that fits them up, more often than not having no clue what pressures should be run in 1209821048230498 different tires on 1209820938023984023984 different cars.

bogged wrote:

gabe wrote:Not sure what that means, but no worries.
The wheel shop stuck 40 in them when I had them fitted.

Many people have left tyre shops with 80psi in tyres before... And it usually appears to be the slowest person on site that fits them up, more often than not having no clue what pressures should be run in 1209821048230498 different tires on 1209820938023984023984 different cars.

Yeah, but it's written on the side of the tyre what the maximum is, not hard to read it I would have thought. I would put it down to the fact that the fitters probably just don't give a toss....

Tyre shops use air pressure to re-seat the bead - which normally requires significantly higher than "normal" pressures.

Sometimes, they forget to reduce the pressures to "normal".

flexytj wrote:i like the creepys but they can be a little on the heavy side to balance .

apart from that they are all good

Balance when the tyres are hot. Creepy's and most Bias tyres for that matter are Nylon cords. Nylon is more susceptible to heat changes (Conventional Radials are Polyester - Some run Nylon Overwraps in addition to the steel belts to re-inforce and protect the belts). Basically when a Nylon Carcassed tyre gets hot, it actually shrinks slightly. No doubt you would have heard of the Bias flat spot from sitting over night. THis is mainly due to the cords in the tyres having different temperature around the tyre. Once you drive on them a bit and get even heat distribution through them, they actually run a lot more true and you get a more accurate balance.

Cheers,
Ryano

Ryano wrote:

flexytj wrote:i like the creepys but they can be a little on the heavy side to balance .

apart from that they are all good

Balance when the tyres are hot. Creepy's and most Bias tyres for that matter are Nylon cords. Nylon is more susceptible to heat changes (Conventional Radials are Polyester - Some run Nylon Overwraps in addition to the steel belts to re-inforce and protect the belts). Basically when a Nylon Carcassed tyre gets hot, it actually shrinks slightly. No doubt you would have heard of the Bias flat spot from sitting over night. THis is mainly due to the cords in the tyres having different temperature around the tyre. Once you drive on them a bit and get even heat distribution through them, they actually run a lot more true and you get a more accurate balance.

Cheers,
Ryano

tried but it still didnt work ...

gone back to radial tyres (pro comp xteme mud terrains )

Just curious as to whet sort of kms you blokes are getting to a set of tyres.
Had mine on the cruiser and for a bias ply, they're very good on road and was considering leaving them on there.

You guys running yours on your daily rig, will I get 50000 kays from a set?

Cheers

more likely 25000km

I ran my 37s at 6-8psi on the weekend and they hooked up on rock awesome. Grimace also had his at these pressures for excellent results.

Its only the fact that i drive on road a bit that is stopping me from getting stickys though.

Would lurv a set of sticky creepies.

are they any good in sand ?

I just spent 2 weeks up Cape Lavique, had the tyres down as low as 8psi and they looked like they still had30 in them. Didn't bag out at all, and got stuck on the beach more times than I care to remember. Definetly not for sand IMO, not without beadlocks and letting them down further....

gabe wrote:I just spent 2 weeks up Cape Lavique, had the tyres down as low as 8psi and they looked like they still had30 in them. Didn't bag out at all, and got stuck on the beach more times than I care to remember. Definetly not for sand IMO, not without beadlocks and letting them down further....

well that answers my question lol.

gabe wrote:I just spent 2 weeks up Cape Lavique, had the tyres down as low as 8psi and they looked like they still had30 in them. Didn't bag out at all, and got stuck on the beach more times than I care to remember. Definetly not for sand IMO, not without beadlocks and letting them down further....

You can run them lower without beadlocks if your using 8 inch rims.

Micka wrote:37" Maxxis Creepies all the way.

Super strong tyre with bucket loads of grip in ANY terrain. I used to run them at 6psi with no beads and they held on without a drama.

I had 37/12.5/16



Best tyre I have owned.

tt6_lux wrote:

kebwaa wrote:8'' rim will be fine just don't run super low pressure. i

4.5 psi

tt6_lux wrote: No internal bead lock, just a set of standard alloy Toyota SR5 rims.

gabe wrote:I just spent 2 weeks up Cape Lavique, had the tyres down as low as 8psi and they looked like they still had30 in them. Didn't bag out at all, and got stuck on the beach more times than I care to remember. Definetly not for sand IMO, not without beadlocks and letting them down further....

In a patrol, by any chance?

Nah mate, cruiser ute.
I was running 15x10 procomp rockcrawler rims, 35x12.5's.

How low can we go before we risk rolling one off the bead?

gabe wrote:Nah mate, cruiser ute.
I was running 15x10 procomp rockcrawler rims, 35x12.5's.

How low can we go before we risk rolling one off the bead?

Withs 10s I wouldn't try any lower than what your running.

Very hard to compare with a sticky as they are a completly different kettle of fish.
In a non sticky they are the best of the bunch. Especially after running on road for a bit at low pressure to get them BLUE so to speek.
In a sticky it would be them or Trepawhores. I would go for the Crawler as most have jumped to the trepawhores. And i think there is not that much in it at all and the crawlers are a touch cheaper. So would leave a bit more coin in the kitty to get some RDF beadlocks and make them the ducksnuts.


Only set of Crawlers i have seen that were pretty crap was a set of old 35s that have done bugger all wheeling in the last year or so and were pretty badly worn. Maybe it was an issue with them going hard ? But they were over say 75% worn.