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oil cooler on turbo return? way to go or not
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:36 pm
by Twistinchassie
gday turboing a 3L toy, the turbo im running is only oil fed i was thinking of running a oil cooler inline from the turbo return to sump? can any one see any issues in doing so?
cheers
James
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:40 pm
by mike_nofx
wouldn't it be better on the feed to the turbo?
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:46 pm
by berad
It is not needed, when something is not needed its just another thing to go wrong 300k's from home or mobile reception.
Re: oil cooler on turbo return? way to go or not
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:35 pm
by awill4x4
Twistinchassie wrote:gday turboing a 3L toy, the turbo im running is only oil fed i was thinking of running a oil cooler inline from the turbo return to sump? can any one see any issues in doing so?
cheers
James
Yes, the turbo return line isn't pressurised and relies on gravity and a smooth transition to the sump. Introducing an oil cooler at this point will back up the oil to the turbo and cause major smoke issues as it gets past the turbo oil seal and into the compressor housing.
Regards Andrew.
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:12 pm
by yamaha__308
Yep oil will back up from the cooler and blow out past the seals.
I didnt have a large enough drain line to the sump and this is what i found to happen.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:44 am
by Ruffy
berad wrote:It is not needed, when something is not needed its just another thing to go wrong 300k's from home or mobile reception.
Whilst this is true that it is not needed, it is not all that accurate.
The enging oil has to primary functions, to lubricate and to transfer heat. The more heat remove from critical components such as crankshaft and bearings, turbos, camshafts etc the less stress on the engine and the longer the life span of the engine. Engine oil coolers are one of the most under rated mods. Anyone that uses there car in extreme conditions will gain advantage from an oil cooler.
If it is a quality product fitted sensibly it is not at all a liability, but more so an asset.
I'd suggest you find a way to fit it in the feed line or get an adaptor for the filter..
Dan
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:17 pm
by Twistinchassie
no worries thanks for your imput. i may try and look at doing the remote mount filter and run the cooler inline.
Regards
James
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:32 pm
by tweak'e
just check that you don't have an oil cooler in the block already.
3L as in toyota L series??
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:49 pm
by dogbreath_48
Would the turbo feed line flow enough for an inline cooler to be effective?
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:10 pm
by Twistinchassie
just check that you don't have an oil cooler in the block already.
3L as in toyota L series??
yeah mate 2.8 liter 3L engine number.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:26 pm
by tweak'e
just check if it has an oil cooler in the side where the oil filter is. if it doesn't i think the 2lt one fits otherwise get one off the small truck version of the 2.8(eg dyna).
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:32 pm
by dumbdunce
it already has an oil cooler on the block, and extra oil cooling is not usually necessary when adding a turbo to this engine. you can maximise the effectiveness of the built in oil cooler by ensuring the cooling system is in top condition.
if you are dead set keen on adding an oil cooler, get a sandwich adaptor to go beneath the oil filter. putting it in the turbo return line is a bad idea for all the reasons already mentioned and more. even if there weren't flow and restriction issues, the turbo oil feed just doesn't flow that much oil, so any cooling effect would be negligible.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:36 pm
by Patroler
you really want to have the return line as unrestricted as possible, and entering the sump at a level higher than the oil, so personally i wouldn't do it that way.
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:49 am
by Twistinchassie
no worries i thought it would of been benifitial to run one but i was un aware of there already being one on the block, ive upgraded the radiator and am about to switch to thermo's. if the std setup will be ok id rather not have another oil line to blow/ come loose on the trail. i dropped the altenator feed line ages ago on daniel rd in the wattagans. not a fun tow home.
thanks for your imput
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:29 pm
by hilux79
If you are switching to thermos because of over heating I would reconsider. I took the thermos off and fitted the engine fan and shroud to mine and it ran cooler.