Outer Limits 4x4 Board

I'm new here, so pardon my ignorace.

Looking at setting up a Sierra from scratch to be a top little off roader - purely for just that.

What recommendations can you make re what I will need and how much it will cost. Purchase of Zook excluded, will look at a bigger engine if recommended.

Thanks!

Chill, Winstaan wrote:I'm new here, so pardon my ignorace.

Looking at setting up a Sierra from scratch to be a top little off roader - purely for just that.

What recommendations can you make re what I will need and how much it will cost. Purchase of Zook excluded, will look at a bigger engine if recommended.

Thanks!

Winstaan,

You are in melbourne according to your avatar... My suggestion is that you come along to the Suzuki Club Meeting tonight at 8pm Wills Rd Glen Iris and meet some of us with our cars. You will be able to check out a few of the vehicles we drive and get some ideas about what you may / may not want to do to your car.

Cheers mate,
Greg

* - note - I can't think what movie / tv show that chill winstaan thing is from but i keep laughing when i read it

SUA, 34's , 6.1, Ruf and drive it like u "think" it has some flex

well thats what all the other melboure folk do

redzook wrote:SUA, 34's , 6.1, Ruf and drive it like u "think" it has some flex

I used to have a setup similar to that - but now i am going to upgrade to some little 33's

greg wrote:

redzook wrote:SUA, 34's , 6.1, Ruf and drive it like u "think" it has some flex

I used to have a setup similar to that - but now i am going to upgrade to some little 33's

USED TO?

i think u still have the same setup

redzook wrote:SUA, 34's , 6.1, Ruf and drive it like u "think" it has some flex

Um... I think I forgot to mention I am new to 4WDing. I got it that the 34's are the round things between car and track, the rest I'm lost on.

And the movie was Lock, Stock (edit, duh)

greg wrote:* - note - I can't think what movie / tv show that chill winstaan thing is from but i keep laughing when i read it

Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels right?

lol chill winstaan!!

If the milk turns out to be sour, i'm not the kind of pussy to drink it!

buy my zook...
88 wide track
already got radiused guards
was running on 34 JTs
pretty much back to stock now
$2k with reg

Chill, Winstaan wrote:Um... I think I forgot to mention I am new to 4WDing. I got it that the 34's are the round things between car and track, the rest I'm lost on.

Come to the meeting tonight - all will be made clear

Sorry, couldn't make it last night. Will try to make the next one - when is it?

Chill, Winstaan wrote:Sorry, couldn't make it last night. Will try to make the next one - when is it?

2nd wednesday of the month... so i guess in may some time

Clearly that is too long to wait for you though, so how about a quick write up on what this car of yours is going to be used for, how much moolah you want to burn on it etc...

If i had to start again, i would tame it back to a good strong capable affordable rig,
1600 carb, 5 spd 4:1 tcase (not 6:1 - cant get the wheel speed on obstacles, hilux diffs 4.55 dual lockers hi-pinion front 60series shafts cut to suit, vitara p/steer (worked awesome before), SUA using lux ln65 rears F&R (they are easy to fit) 9012's F&R, 35/14.5/15 boggers, and exo.
if you do a lot ofthe work yourself you could get away with less than $9k
for a mad rig.(comp ready)

1MadEngineer wrote: 5 spd 4:1 tcase (not 6:1 - cant get the wheel speed on obstacles,

your car dosent have 2nd or 3rd gear?

what would u do when u need to crawl?

greg wrote:

redzook wrote:SUA, 34's , 6.1, Ruf and drive it like u "think" it has some flex

I used to have a setup similar to that - but now i am going to upgrade to some little 33's

This setup is stable and ideal for actually driving on trails.

But for driving over single rocks on beaches or onto other peoples tyres you really need to go spring over.

bigsteve wrote:

greg wrote:

redzook wrote:SUA, 34's , 6.1, Ruf and drive it like u "think" it has some flex

I used to have a setup similar to that - but now i am going to upgrade to some little 33's

This setup is stable and ideal for actually driving on trails.

But for driving over single rocks on beaches or onto other peoples tyres you really need to go spring over.

Winnstan if you're new to entirely new to 4bn the the best advice is to grab an old wt sierra for a couple of grand and go play until you can drive further than the car can go, then start modding All the gear and no idea could get you into trouble if you're unlucky, get some experience first.

Straight up get the car, 2" bl and 31 mudders then just have fun in it till you lose your mind like the rest of us, then fire up the power tools in anger

mj

bigsteve wrote:

greg wrote:

redzook wrote:SUA, 34's , 6.1, Ruf and drive it like u "think" it has some flex

I used to have a setup similar to that - but now i am going to upgrade to some little 33's

This setup is stable and ideal for actually driving on trails.

But for driving over single rocks on beaches or onto other peoples tyres you really need to go spring over.

ooooooooooooooh.....scathing

antt wrote:

bigsteve wrote:

greg wrote:

redzook wrote:SUA, 34's , 6.1, Ruf and drive it like u "think" it has some flex

I used to have a setup similar to that - but now i am going to upgrade to some little 33's

This setup is stable and ideal for actually driving on trails.

But for driving over single rocks on beaches or onto other peoples tyres you really need to go spring over.

ooooooooooooooh.....scathing

I could not resist

mj wrote:Winnstan if you're new to entirely new to 4bn the the best advice is to grab an old wt sierra for a couple of grand and go play until you can drive further than the car can go, then start modding All the gear and no idea could get you into trouble if you're unlucky, get some experience first.

Straight up get the car, 2" bl and 31 mudders then just have fun in it till you lose your mind like the rest of us, then fire up the power tools in anger

mj

that's the theory that i'm going with... new springs cos the old ones were sagged, 2" bodylift, and some 31" muddies, and learn to drive. got some crawler gears to put in soon, i reckon i'll prolly be keeping it like that for a while. don't like the idea of having a rig that's too much more capable than me, cos then i don't get any driving skill...

but meh, if u've got $$ and already reckon ur a gun driver, go for it and post pics when we get em back

bigsteve wrote:

greg wrote:

redzook wrote:SUA, 34's , 6.1, Ruf and drive it like u "think" it has some flex

I used to have a setup similar to that - but now i am going to upgrade to some little 33's

This setup is stable and ideal for actually driving on trails.

But for driving over single rocks on beaches or onto other peoples tyres you really need to go spring over.

u sayin mine isnt stable i have neva flopped it the only time i actually tried to flop it it landed on its side walls of the tyres an the body didnt even touch the ground

i cant wait till CARNAGE IN THE COLD

redzook wrote:

bigsteve wrote:

greg wrote:

redzook wrote:SUA, 34's , 6.1, Ruf and drive it like u "think" it has some flex

I used to have a setup similar to that - but now i am going to upgrade to some little 33's

This setup is stable and ideal for actually driving on trails.

But for driving over single rocks on beaches or onto other peoples tyres you really need to go spring over.

u sayin mine isnt stable i have neva flopped it the only time i actually tried to flop it it landed on its side walls of the tyres an the body didnt even touch the ground

i cant wait till CARNAGE IN THE COLD

Game ON!


Let's Get ready to Rummmmmmbbbbble

Which is better SPOA or SUA I searched but it hasn't been discussed before

















Highjackers

mj wrote:Which is better SPOA or SUA I searched but it hasn't been discussed before

Each is suited to different terrain and both can be done well/poorly.

SPOA's is better for poser shots.

grimbo wrote:Game ON!


Let's Get ready to Rummmmmmbbbbble

Interesting - from the sounds of things on wednesday i thought you were soft-cocking it and scampering off over seas again

as to which is better SPOA or SPUA .. it is all a matter of terrain and opinion..
SPOA should provide more flex .. if done properly
SPUA should be more stable in theory


It is a pointless debate on this section of the board as there is the firmly entrenched "34's and bodylift crowd" (mostly vic) and the "SPOA all the way" crew of NSW\QLD ...

greg wrote:

grimbo wrote:Game ON!


Let's Get ready to Rummmmmmbbbbble

Interesting - from the sounds of things on wednesday i thought you were soft-cocking it and scampering off over seas again

more to do with the fact I still probably wont have done anything about the Zuk by then

Plus i don't want to show you up what without the remote control driver probably not being there

love_mud wrote:as to which is better SPOA or SPUA .. it is all a matter of terrain and opinion..
SPOA should provide more flex .. if done properly
SPUA should be more stable in theory


It is a pointless debate on this section of the board as there is the firmly entrenched "34's and bodylift crowd" (mostly vic) and the "SPOA all the way" crew of NSW\QLD ...

A clearly the third group "Niether" which you have recently joined Guy.

And there are two types of 34's, mine (Large ones) and Gregs/Grahams (Small ones)

mj wrote:Which is better SPOA or SUA I searched but it hasn't been discussed before

Please don't take me seriously it was a sarcastic question

I never take double-posters seriously

bigsteve wrote:I never take double-posters seriously

Whatchu talkin bout willis

mj wrote:

bigsteve wrote:I never take double-posters seriously

Whatchu talkin bout willis

This site has Gremlins, a minute ago there was a double post from you and my browser died.

So I guess its not funny to anybody except me