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G'day, I have been searching and looking this up for awhile now but can't find the info i need. Is the 6 stud hubs for a sierra a genuine part that i could get from a suzuki dealer or are they a special fitment only on some import sierra's? How much $$ would it cost to do all corners?
I do have a genuine reason for going to six stud rims too It's so my cruiser and sierra are running the same tyres and rims so when i need extra spares for the 80 i can take them off the zook and vice versa.

i was in Cuba 2 weeks ago and saw an old fj40 with stock sierra rims,
Took a photo of it too!

I can only guess that fj40 hubs fit on sierra axles, it would be an easier route then sourcing suzuki equivalent
(i know i feel dirty even suggesting other manufactures)

hmmm that could work to bad none of mates have an old 40 for me to have a look at. Can anyone else confirm this?

On the 4wda forum DEEV8 has them. But i think he got them off another forum memb

Josh

More hassel then they're worth, yes you get a wider selection of wheels but WHEN you break one, what happens then.

Locktup sell a 2 inch spacer that converts it to a 6 stud

http://www.locktup4x4.com.au/product/3c ... 36300.aspx

I think they would be worth it. If you have had a cruiser/trol in the past and still have offroad rubber lieing around, it would save you alot of money and gain track. but may screw up bearings pretty fast.
Has anyone run 2"wheel spacers on a sierra on road for any extended period of time? Does it change anything?

Josh

a mate has run 2'' spacers on a nt for a year now, no problems but its not a daily. cheers ron

How much to set it up?? Now how much for custom offset wheels without the drama of huge repair costs. Less headaches going to bundy diffs

just get your hubs redrilled to six stud

Im not doing it for extra track or a wider selection of rims i want my cruiser and zook to be running the same 235/85R16 tyres and rims so when i need spares for a big trip i can just take the zooks tyres and rims.

Is there a one inch spacer 6 stud adapter? 2inch seems a bit to much for what I want. When i get the chance i'll look into the 40 series hubs too could be a cheap fix

i asked around the forums a while ago, about the 6 stud hubs, and no one knew much about them. it seems that only a handful of overseas models had them, you would be hard pressed to get your hands on some.
Wheel spaces are the easier option.

I think setting up 6 stud rims on a sierra is false economy. It's not possible to redrill the front hubs to 6 stud, so either a 6 stud hub would need to be sourced for one of the four sierras suzuki built as 6 stud, or machined from new.

The rear could be redrilled, however, as you'd be redrilling the brake drum, and that's a wear item, any $$ you put into it is thrown away once the drum is worn past its service limit.

If a sierra was a genuinely strange pattern, (like my Gwagen, which has the same stud pattern as Porsche, and that's all) I could see it being worthwhile, but rims aren't at all hard to come by for sierras.

If you have a shed full of 6 stud rims, sell them and buy some 5 stud rums to suit.

As an aside, sierras don't need a rim as heavy as most 6 stud rims, and don't necessarily need the same offset either, so the whole process might be a waste when the 6 stud rims are mounted up and the offset is wrong.

Steve.

Gwagensteve wrote: If a sierra was a genuinely strange pattern, (like my Gwagen, which has the same stud pattern as Porsche, and that's all) I could see it being worthwhile, but rims aren't at all hard to come by for sierras.

So how come you ain`t rolling on 22`s

I think the entire point kitika bought this up was so he could spend the money on one really good set of tyres and rims. And have them do both 4wds. Its a good idea and i would do tha same.

I think the reason the 6stud conversion is also a 50mm wheel spacer. Is so that your original studs dont poke out of the top.

Josh

i used to have a complete set of diffs that were factory suzuki 6 stud from an import sierra. I decided against converting mine due to isues with replacement parts. what happends when you wear out a disc or drum? Yes you can still get them but they have to be a special order and will cost about 4 times more than a stock one.

Check with DAMO he bought them........ not sure if he used them or not.


B4T

31zook wrote:I think the entire point kitika bought this up was so he could spend the money on one really good set of tyres and rims. And have them do both 4wds. Its a good idea and i would do tha same.

I think the reason the 6stud conversion is also a 50mm wheel spacer. Is so that your original studs dont poke out of the top.

Josh

they are thick because they are a stacked spacer. if you look at it closely you can see a seam. the way these work is that they bolt up to the hub, and then the 6 stud part bolts to that block via 4 countersunk hex key head screws. you end up with the spacers stacked onto each other. i dont think i would trust it to be as strong as any hub.



as said, i agree that sierra rims arent hard or expensive to get.

that's a hideous idea.

As you guys know the toyota bundera ( I think you call it ) is based on the daihatsu rocky . The FJ 40 you would have seen in Cuba , would have been one of the very first of this model . Sometimes called a mini FJ40 , anyway the daihatsu running gear is 5 stud the same as the suzuki so stock suzuki rims may fit but was probably on stock factory rims for the brand .

Suzuki did make six stud hubs , I ran a set . If you want some try Mudbits on the forum here or the suzuki wrecker in NZ , Te Puke Parts world . We got them on imported 413's badged jimnys , they had the high roof like drovers .

Chris

Rotazuk wrote:As you guys know the toyota bundera ( I think you call it ) is based on the daihatsu rocky . The FJ 40 you would have seen in Cuba , would have been one of the very first of this model . Sometimes called a mini FJ40 , anyway the daihatsu running gear is 5 stud the same as the suzuki so stock suzuki rims may fit but was probably on stock factory rims for the brand .

Suzuki did make six stud hubs , I ran a set . If you want some try Mudbits on the forum here or the suzuki wrecker in NZ , Te Puke Parts world . We got them on imported 413's badged jimnys , they had the high roof like drovers .

Chris

Your thinking of the Toyota Blizzard, which is based on a Daihatsu Scat. The Bundera and the rocky are two very different species.

Layto....

meh, not to good on dirty `yota stuff.





(it was vitara rims too, what bad memory)

Photos taken at Plaza Dolores, Santiago, Cuba

it looks like a landrover with a yota front grafted on

its an fj25..Possibly..

Definitely a series LR roof, 40 front clip and vit rims. Never seen a 40 rear section like that either so I would hazard a guess that it's series LR too?


The doors looks lower half = 40series and top half = LR ????



Bizarre.

Thats just weird . Heres a link to the mini cruiser I was talking about .
http://www.sealandsafari.com/pages/Minicruiser_red.htm

They ran the 12r etc which is the motor in the early daihatsu tafts , which became the rocky which is rebadged as a toyota blizzard on this side of the ditch . Thought you guys called them the bundera , but that may be the tray back cruiser maybe .

nah a bundera is a rj/lj/pzj70/71 series. they are all swb coil sprung.

The car you pictured is just an early series cruiser from a different market cant remember the exact series but its predecessor was the bj40.

I dont think it was directly related to the diahatsu at all.

The car in convesation tho im guessing is someones imbred toyroverhatsuzukwhatsit

badger wrote:nah a bundera is a rj/lj/pzj70/71 series. they are all swb coil sprung.

So that would make it what we call a Prado I guess ( thast what I thought it was ) , here thats a follow on from the blizzard .

badger wrote:The car you pictured is just an early series cruiser from a different market cant remember the exact series but its predecessor was the bj40.

Unless the BJ40 weights 1050 kg I don't think so . The Mini Cruiser was build under licence from toyota by Delta in the philipines and was based on the Daihatsu platform . Its a bit smaller than a cj5 apparently . One was for sale in NZ here a short while ago . No idea how it got here .

Anyway this is not a toyota forum atleast the Cuban thing has vitara wheels .

That mini cruiser is sweet.

Would definitely rock one of them.

yeah the lwb in those varients is a prado, they are only seen as imports here.

just to add a spanner in the works... its got blue plates, meaning its a govement vehicle who user can drive it day and night

i saw heaps of mongrels there, jeeps rolling on 13 inch 4 studs wheels and old 50`s chevrolet with truck or military off-road rubber. The general pattern was canablise from whats available. A lot of sierras where hire cars during the 90`s so i guess all the writeoffs got canabalise
(and in cuba a write off is something EXTREMELY wrecked, anything less is just put back on the road)

back to the tread... the diffs where definately not suzuki or willys because the width of the vehicle, so may be toyota wheel hubs interchangleble
(the aisin locking bit are so why not the rest...)