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75 series ute 2h engine transplant???????????? need help
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:36 am
by 75hearttransplant
gday all im new here heard this is the place to get qaulity advice. ive just returned from rover park. drove ive cracked my 2h deisel block again and dont wana spend money to put a bandaid on so i am tossing up whether to buy another 2h turbo reco 20k ago for $3500 or go out there find something like a 12ht to slot ive heard they fit right in???? or to do a complete mission and put my 75 cab on a 80series chasis with a 4.5litre only done 48K which i can buy for 2500???? wats the thoughts on this i will do most of the work myself tho i am on a budget of 5k top ?????????????????? cheers
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:07 pm
by chpd80
If Qld Transport allow it and you have the ability to do it I would
go the 80 series chassis with the 75 cab on it.
Pretty sure it has been done with good results before and in
the end you will have a good motor with coil suspension.
Big job though. try the search, you may find who has done it.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:56 pm
by land8079
Go the 75 cab on 80 chassis, works realy good. two of my mates have done it and its awsome
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:07 am
by 75hearttransplant
chpd80 wrote:If Qld Transport allow it and you have the ability to do it I would
go the 80 series chassis with the 75 cab on it.
Pretty sure it has been done with good results before and in
the end you will have a good motor with coil suspension.
Big job though. try the search, you may find who has done it.
yeah cheers mate not sure if ill hae the time to do itas yet though im just sussing out options. i can also get my hands on a 12ht in a 61 series for 4000 engines done 350000 so but its auto would that all fit straight in the 75 series???
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:34 am
by chpd80
Not sure on the current price of a 12ht but $4000 for that many kays
seems to me a tad high (although they will go for a lot longer than that)
depends on its service life, but you wouldnt want to have to rebuild the turbo or diesel pump and keep to your $5000 limit.
I would think it would fit straight in but havent done it so cant be sure.
I am just wondering why you are on your second 2h? serviced correctly
these things will go forever,
was it turboed?
if so big boost?
cracking the block is fairly serious, as I say these are a good strong motor
The 2h is a bit like the 1HZ scenario, they are not a fatory turbo motor with the extra oil galleries and stronger bottom end so you need to turbo them accordingly. low boost, low exhaust temps, etc.
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:42 am
by 75hearttransplant
chpd80 wrote:Not sure on the current price of a 12ht but $4000 for that many kays
seems to me a tad high (although they will go for a lot longer than that)
depends on its service life, but you wouldnt want to have to rebuild the turbo or diesel pump and keep to your $5000 limit.
I would think it would fit straight in but havent done it so cant be sure.
I am just wondering why you are on your second 2h? serviced correctly
these things will go forever,
was it turboed?
if so big boost?
cracking the block is fairly serious, as I say these are a good strong motor
The 2h is a bit like the 1HZ scenario, they are not a fatory turbo motor with the extra oil galleries and stronger bottom end so you need to turbo them accordingly. low boost, low exhaust temps, etc.
when i bought the ute it had a full reco engine and gear box it doesnt miss a beat tho i came across a oil leak near the oil cooler and thought the cooler was the problem. on further inspection it was because of an over torqued bolt through the cooler into the block and has a hairline crack it was fixed once but now split again i just dont want the hassles of being out bush and having it split again. evrything under the bonnet is brand new. i havent actually taken the cooler off again to check if it is the cooler this time i probly should im just assuming its the split again?? hmm not sure as yet goin to degrease it today and find the leak.
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:20 am
by bIg_ReD_bOiNs
Personally i wouldnt bother with a diesel at all, i made the mistake of spending 10 large rebuilding my 1HZ with all the right bits to put a big turbo setup on it, and have realised that even with all that and another 6k plus for the turbo and intercooler to make the thing hammer, it will still never be as good as a V8 or even a petty 6.
I am now thinking of going the 4.5 1FZFE and putting a turbo on that. Ive been quoted 2500 for a low kms secondhand 1FZ with computer and wiring loom. turbo kit, from what little research ive done should cost about 5, which will have way more power than any diesel and alot of V8s.
Only setback with the 1FZ is that they are hella thirsty, dunno how they are on gas (havent researched), but then servicing and repairing any diesel is twice the price. ive driven the same truck since i got my licence and personally if i was going to spend the money replacing my motor id rather be able to overtake on the highway in less than 10 kms, go up a hill in better than 3rd gear and have enough power to have a bit of fun.
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:30 am
by bIg_ReD_bOiNs
saying that im only really interested in power im not really that concerned about economy
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:22 pm
by Buggerific
I hope you're exaggerating your highway speeds, or lack of speed...
In my 1HZ troopy I maintain 100kmh and slow a little up hills, not often down to 3rd though...
And mine is loaded heavy all the time!
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:17 pm
by bIg_ReD_bOiNs
Buggerific wrote:I hope you're exaggerating your highway speeds, or lack of speed...
In my 1HZ troopy I maintain 100kmh and slow a little up hills, not often down to 3rd though...
And mine is loaded heavy all the time!
lower gearing, big tyres and long hills.....and mb a bit of exaggerating
. no jk on 3rd gear when its loaded though.
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:12 pm
by Buggerific
Ah, well I didn't realise the lower gearing... What tyres are you running... I have 33's with everything else standard and non turbo, goes ok.
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:54 pm
by bIg_ReD_bOiNs
just 35s, but it makes a big difference surprisingly. a while ago i dropped back to some 33 roadies, holy carp batman, it was like it had a turbo all of a sudden...... well mb not that good
but it was a big difference
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:13 pm
by Buggerific
Yep, that'd do it!
I want to go 35's but if I do there'll be a lot of changes before then.
33's will do for now.
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:24 am
by bj on roids
Do the 75 onto 80 chassis, take heaps of pics, it'll take you a few months though.