Outer Limits 4x4 Board

first off i am new to custom coil setups....
does a trianulated 4 link need a panhard??

No it does'nt
try this for starters http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthre ... oll+centre

hiluxmad wrote:first off i am new to custom coil setups....
does a trianulated 4 link need a panhard??

4 link with a panhard will just bind. 4 link does not move through the same lateral arc that a panhard does and they fight each other.

Tim

no panhard.

cheers guys
i am looking at this set up in the rear of a ute chopped 60 series with a lexus v8.
what would be the better setup for the front 5 link or standard 3 link like GQ or 80 series?

hiluxmad wrote:cheers guys
i am looking at this set up in the rear of a ute chopped 60 series with a lexus v8.
what would be the better setup for the front 5 link or standard 3 link like GQ or 80 series?

a triangulated 4 link set up is triangulted to negate the need for a panhard thus allowing more movement, a 4 link plus panhard is a 5 link...sort of, I am sure you get my drift.

I would go try 3 link + panhard front, the patrol and cruiser front set up is a radius arm set up, not really a link set up in the manner you are thinking and if you are going to the trouble of a complete custom set up, a radius arm set up is a waste of time and effort.

you can 5 link the front, but I am not a fan of 5 link fronts personally, if you want a radius amr set up, I would look at going for an xlink set up on it from the start or you will end up dissapointed

my2c for ya

Tiny wrote:

hiluxmad wrote:cheers guys
i am looking at this set up in the rear of a ute chopped 60 series with a lexus v8.
what would be the better setup for the front 5 link or standard 3 link like GQ or 80 series?

a triangulated 4 link set up is triangulted to negate the need for a panhard thus allowing more movement, a 4 link plus panhard is a 5 link...sort of, I am sure you get my drift.

I would go try 3 link + panhard front, the patrol and cruiser front set up is a radius arm set up, not really a link set up in the manner you are thinking and if you are going to the trouble of a complete custom set up, a radius arm set up is a waste of time and effort.

you can 5 link the front, but I am not a fan of 5 link fronts personally, if you want a radius amr set up, I would look at going for an xlink set up on it from the start or you will end up dissapointed

my2c for ya

I'm not trying to disagree but more wondering why you would think that a radius arm setup be a waste of time?
if i was doing a coil conversion i think i would go that way using all stock 80/100 front end stuff. i would sacrifice some travel for higher speed handling. more aiming at an all round trail rig and not a comp truck which needs to be towed everywhere.


horses for courses....

mule75 wrote:

Tiny wrote:

hiluxmad wrote:cheers guys
i am looking at this set up in the rear of a ute chopped 60 series with a lexus v8.
what would be the better setup for the front 5 link or standard 3 link like GQ or 80 series?

a triangulated 4 link set up is triangulted to negate the need for a panhard thus allowing more movement, a 4 link plus panhard is a 5 link...sort of, I am sure you get my drift.

I would go try 3 link + panhard front, the patrol and cruiser front set up is a radius arm set up, not really a link set up in the manner you are thinking and if you are going to the trouble of a complete custom set up, a radius arm set up is a waste of time and effort.

you can 5 link the front, but I am not a fan of 5 link fronts personally, if you want a radius amr set up, I would look at going for an xlink set up on it from the start or you will end up dissapointed

my2c for ya

I'm not trying to disagree but more wondering why you would think that a radius arm setup be a waste of time?
if i was doing a coil conversion i think i would go that way using all stock 80/100 front end stuff. i would sacrifice some travel for higher speed handling. more aiming at an all round trail rig and not a comp truck which needs to be towed everywhere.


horses for courses....

there is no reason you cant have a well set up 3 link + panhard or 5 link set up capable of decent speeds and handling, bearing in mind you are talking about a modified 4wd built for offroad, not a sports car built for laps around a track.

I am all for radius arm set ups staying on vehicles rather than riping them out and putting in cutom set ups unless it is a comp rig, I think you can comprimise a few things, and flex isn;t everything, but if you are going to the effort of ripping all the current suspension out in favour of a custom set up, radius arm sets up to me are a waste of time.

why rip out a leaf set up for a coil set up that has no better flex and marginally better ride? may as well have the marginally better ride AND fully sik flex dudes

Zeyphly wrote:http://www.locktup4x4.com.au/product/aa ... eb124.aspx

Could this kit be made to suit a coil conversion to the rear on a nissan patrol gu coil front leaf rear

kond wrote:

Zeyphly wrote:http://www.locktup4x4.com.au/product/aa ... eb124.aspx

Could this kit be made to suit a coil conversion to the rear on a nissan patrol gu coil front leaf rear

dont see why not, get some measurments and check it out......the rear \ diff support should be fine, the angles of the links in relation to where they would sit on the chassis \ crosmembers would be different, but fairly easy to make suitable braketry I would think

for 2G someone will custom make a rear end fit it for you.

Mate of mine made his own 3-link using the above link and it was well less than $2g!

Hey all im looking at putting a 4 link in the rear of my hilux

Can i run just the upper arms in a triangle using arms 850mm long with seperation of 850mm at the end of the arms on the chassis end

they are roughly on a 53degree angle on the inside of the triangle

i may hvae made this confusing but its a bit hard to explain in writing[/img]

WICKED wrote:Mate of mine made his own 3-link using the above link and it was well less than $2g!

He's got leaves in the front.

Bagdad mafia wrote:Hey all im looking at putting a 4 link in the rear of my hilux

Can i run just the upper arms in a triangle using arms 850mm long with seperation of 850mm at the end of the arms on the chassis end

they are roughly on a 53degree angle on the inside of the triangle

i may hvae made this confusing but its a bit hard to explain in writing[/img]

The general rule of thumb is that you need a minimum of 45deg. triangulation in your links to sufficiently reduce flex steer. You seem to have that covered however there is a lot more to it than just that. Personally I would try to get a bit of angle on the lowers too. But that's me.


Roll axis, IC, AS etc. etc. all has to be taken in to consideration too. Get the 4-link calculator if you haven't already.

http://mysite.verizon.net/triaged/fi...rLinkV3.1d.zip

Thanks v840

ill have a play around with angles on both arms before i confirm my setup

KiwiBacon wrote:

WICKED wrote:Mate of mine made his own 3-link using the above link and it was well less than $2g!

He's got leaves in the front.

And?

WICKED wrote:

KiwiBacon wrote:

WICKED wrote:Mate of mine made his own 3-link using the above link and it was well less than $2g!

He's got leaves in the front.

And?

Presuming he's not finished yet.