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vitara help
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:59 am
by 4x4modder
can i put 35 inch tyres on my vitara? 35x15,s dont worry its had a big lift and there is no arches just worried about the gearbox 1600cc 8valve manaul cheers, is anyone running there zuki,s on 35,s or bigger?
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:41 am
by saffrett
not with the vit t/c on its own you would need dual tc or maybe a lux one
the vit is high geared on 31
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:43 am
by 4x4modder
wots t/c? and hat do you mean geared on 31? cheers
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:48 am
by cj
Yes, you can but would you want to? At the least you'll need some crawler gears in the t-case but at that tyre size you'd be better off looking at swapping in a Sierra t-case although the offset output is an issue. Mike Hagen ran 35"Krawlers for the Ultimate Adventure but he had the EFI engine, crawler gears and 5.83 diffs. He now runs 39.5's I think. The Toyota case has no real benefit as it still doesn't address high range and you'll still need to swap in crawler gears.
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:49 am
by cossie1
the general consensus seems to be 30" is the max size tyre you should use before there is a negative effect on alleration and fuel consumption.. well on rd that is
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:24 pm
by Toecutta
Yes you can, have a look at the Toperi Challenge Photos, trail tough gears, 8V engine, std diff ratios, but still has IFS.
Toperi Challenge
Event 1 TC08_160 to TC08_163
Event 2 TC08_245 to TC08_250
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:51 pm
by eXc
saffrett wrote:the vit is high geared on 31
The Vit is high geared on 29's! haha
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:46 pm
by danssurf82
31's and locker= snapping axels like they are going out of fashon,
35's? snapping axels and cv's while driving like a granny with no lockers?
how much lift u got?
need t/fer gears deffinately, with 31's its gutless
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:23 pm
by 4x4modder
right my vitara has a 5inch lift and the front diff is lowered witht he propper brackets, uprated pro comp plus 2 suspension, the arches arnt there i,m busy making a custom zuki, prop shaft spaces,wheels spacers, spring spacers, side exit exhaust,
i,m still mixed up as sum people are saying yes it will be ok and sum NO
it will only be a toy to drive on the trailer toand from events NOT ROAD LEGAL and rear diff getting welded up so permant lock
remember this wont be on the road so wont be going up the gears and going that fast
cheers for all the help but i,m still a bit unsure, i no have got the tyres coming but still a bit unsure
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:16 am
by danssurf82
with 31's and a welded diff i snapped axels all the time. always on rock in the bush.
like friday night then another on sunday, thats how close together i would snap them sometimes.
u need chromolly axels. to fix the prob i think. but then instead of axels being the weakest point u will prob have problems with blowing up gearboxes.
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:36 am
by cj
danssurf82 wrote:with 31's and a welded diff i snapped axels all the time. always on rock in the bush.
like friday night then another on sunday, thats how close together i would snap them sometimes.
u need chromolly axels. to fix the prob i think. but then instead of axels being the weakest point u will prob have problems with blowing up gearboxes.
An auto and/or t-case gears may solve a lot of that or you learn how to drive within the limits of the car
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Calmini offer upgraded rear axles shafts for 1.6 Vits too.
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:19 pm
by 4x4modder
nothing is bloody easy lol t/box whats that? and could i not just chnage the axels and diffs to one from a bigger say 2ltr diesel? vitara?
or should i just go with 33,s and make it easy?
i have seen sum vitara,s with bigger rubber, but dont know the full spec on hat they did
cheers for the help guys
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:35 pm
by saffrett
my mate runs 32 with twin lockers, t/c gears and blown 1.6 and its his only car and he dosent snap axels that often .
i think with 33 with t/c gears a set of 5.83 diffs you should be fine if you drive right
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:45 pm
by 4x4modder
what is t/c gears? and how will i know the ratio of the diffs i have as its standard diffs in a manual
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:09 pm
by ajsr
tc gears = transfer case gears
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:11 am
by saffrett
i think you will have 5:12
my car is to fast in low range with standard gearing and 235 so on 33 it would be shocking to drive in the bush.
the tc gears in a vit are only good for about 31 thats y you need the 5.83 if you were to run any think bigger.
ps you can get a kit from the states to run 4runner cv on the front which will handel 35 and then get calmini axel for the back but ! you might move the week point to diffs and gearbox.
dont run any thing with out getting a steel front diff out of a xl7 or you will tear it to shreads when you load it up
ps good luck a lot of guys in the states run 35- 37 on vits but they are crazy and have way to much $$$$$$
33 on your vit will be heaps