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i have a 84 4 runner 2.4 diesel, and it is a slow ass peice of shyte.
i would like to put a new engine in it and am looking for some advice on what i should put in

could any one give me some advice on what my options are for putting in to give it some more grunt, and approx $$$$$?


would be appreciated

Commodore v6



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if ur keeping it diesel id go a sufr 3.0l turbo around 100kw

ur engine puts out 56kw @ 4200 160nm @ 2400

if ur wanting petrol id go the 4.0l all alloy v8 toyota you can pick up engine packs (engine comp + wire harness) from around $2000.00

4litre 1uz-fe 191kw @ 5400rpm / 353nm @ 4600rpm

4litre 1uz-fe vvti 206 @ 6000rpm / 402nm @ 4000rpm

4.2litre 3uz-fe vvti 206kw @ 5600rpm / 430nm @ 3400rpm

landcruser 4.7litre 173kw @ 5600rpm / 422nm @ 3600

5.0l 1gz-fe vvti 206kw @ 5200rpm / 481nm @ 4000rpm

vn v6 125kw / vp 127kw / vr 130kw later 132kw/ vs ecotec 147kw


id say the toyota v8 is the go.if going petrol just look at the specs.

hope that helps u out. & good luck

How much $$$$$ do you want to spend?

No point even thinking about a 1UZ-FE if you don`t want to spend that sort of money.

Guts wrote:How much $$$$$ do you want to spend?

No point even thinking about a 1UZ-FE if you don`t want to spend that sort of money.

exactly $'s will determine the best swap for you

me its a 1UZ-FE, with aftermarket computer and a few extras

where would you get the V8 toyota for $2 grand? second hand? what is it out of?

Rorza wrote:where would you get the V8 toyota for $2 grand? second hand? what is it out of?

any jap importer - you can get half cuts from 1500 to 2500

hom many km on your 2.4? is it in good condition? simplest power up is to turbo the 2.4 but it still won't make it a ball tearing power machine - butit's cheap and easy. can get turbo kits from wreckers more or less complete for under $1000.

Rorza wrote:where would you get the V8 toyota for $2 grand? second hand? what is it out of?

The 1UZ is found in Crowns, Celsiors and Soarers. There are probably more cars they were used.

gutlux wrote:i have a 84 4 runner 2.4 diesel, and it is a slow ass peice of shyte.
i would like to put a new engine in it and am looking for some advice on what i should put in

could any one give me some advice on what my options are for putting in to give it some more grunt, and approx $$$$$?


would be appreciated

How much do you want for the diesal when your done with it ??

well i dont want to spend more than 4 or 5 g all up, but dunno if this is possible. if i went with the toyota v8 and did most of it my self, how much am i looking at.

the 2.4 was rebuilt about 40 k ago.

how much difference is a turbo going to make??


and thanks for all your replies

gutlux wrote:well i dont want to spend more than 4 or 5 g all up, but dunno if this is possible. if i went with the toyota v8 and did most of it my self, how much am i looking at.

the 2.4 was rebuilt about 40 k ago.

how much difference is a turbo going to make??


and thanks for all your replies

Turbo will make a significiant diference...

BUT surely you dont wanna resist temptation to go a more powerful engine such as a toyota v8 or the cheaper option - commodore v6 efi ??

TOM

Im doing the v6 at the moment. I was talking to a guy recently that does these using all Marks adapter gear for 5 grand flat including the engine. This is in Brisbane though. PM me if ya interested.

John

Hybrid wrote:Im doing the v6 at the moment. I was talking to a guy recently that does these using all Marks adapter gear for 5 grand flat including the engine. This is in Brisbane though. PM me if ya interested.

John

5 grand = supra + lockers + tyres

please expain supra surf

I think the BBS needs a Lux engine swap sticky

I always end up harping on about the Supra swap whenever someone is looking to power up a Lux.

For bugga all $$$ you can drop a 5M (2.8) or 7M (3.0) straight 6 into a Lux. Because the old Supras are cheap to buy and the motor bolts straight up to the Lux box you can get one in the hole for under $1000 including engine !

Do some searching for 5M ( or 5M-GE ) 4runner swaps and you should get the info you need. Also research other options, V6 Commo and 1UZ and both good swaps.

do you have any specs on these motors?


is it what you have in yours??

Yeah I know SS. If i had looked into the supra swap before i started the v6 I woulda gone the 7M for sure. I just brought up the 5k job because thats the cheapest I have seen for a v6 commo swap. Others I looked at were 8-10k if i remember correctly.

Hey gut someone was asking about the 7MGE and supra swap just a couple of weeks ago and I put up some links to ones already done (5MG and 7MG). Just run a search and you should turn the thread up. If all else fails look back a couple of pages.

John

1UZ-FE cost me $1900 by the time it was here and the adaptor is going to cost me $1400, then I`ll make some engine mounts and have exhaust and engineers to pay for.

hey supra,
how does the 7M go for torque done at low revs, and wat is it like in water.
cheers
steve

guy at work is selling his supra complet 84 mod v6 (2.8) runing and driving a bit tierd but its a complet car 1800 bux

Use the search

5M-GE BHP = 160@5200 max T= 155@4400

7M-GE BHP = 199@6000 Max T = 188@3600
7M-GTE BHP = 236@5600 Max T = 253@3200


http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... light=7mge

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... light=7mge

bj56 wrote:guy at work is selling his supra complet 84 mod v6 (2.8) runing and driving a bit tierd but its a complet car 1800 bux

Um, there never was a Supra wth a V6.
1984 model is the 5M-GE straight 6.
$1800 is a bit steep, would expect to pay $500 - $1000 for a manual one.

my whole truck only owes me $9000. That's engineered and registered.
Check out the specs



http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=17818

Chris

thanks to every body for your assistance


i think i am gonna go with the 7m, turbo if i can find one. from what i can gather it will bolt straight onto the gearbox , will i need to make new mounts?

the electrics and fuel, etc i can work out later but i am gathering from what everyone has said it is pretty much just a straight swap. am i correct in this assumption.

i also gather i will need to get a half cut or a whole car so all the wiring comes with it. is correct??

and finally anyone know a good place to get one around sydney???


cheers
justin

suprasurf's on to it.
I had the same problem with my 84 surf, meet mike, made the desision.
84 Celica = 1g-geu (2ltr 6cyl 24valve) $600nz
1g-geu wiring diagram = $40nz
misc parts = $80nz
Total $720nz
Bits sold = 2lt diesel $500
turbo $100
celica gearbox $250
Total $850 its good to be payed to work on your truck

I am currently putting a 1uzfe into my 1993 surf. I bought the 1uz for $2000 in a half cut. The V8 bolted straight to the original hilux gearbox which is the auto (A343F) which was a suprise. I trial fitted the motor the motor on the weekend and found that the back right of the sump hit on the front diff, otherwise everything is fits well. I plan to either modify the sump or install a 4inch ifs lift kit which drops the front diff. Or do a solid axle conversion which would solve all problems.

I currently have a 2.4 Turbo diesel (2L-TE) for sale which has a reconditioned turbo and Aftermarket head wich was worth $1600 new. I will seperate the turbo/manifolds and everything else associated or you can have the whole motor. Motor comes with loom and computer etc. Make and offer if you are interested.

go to a jap import place. this ones in sydney but pretty much the same everywhere.

http://www.sssautomotive.com.au/Toyota.htm

from that site
7M-GE = 1100
7M-GTE = 1400
1jz = 1500
2jz = 1500

CRWLNLUX wrote: Aftermarket head wich was worth $1600 new.

what is special about it to make it 1600 worth?


NICK