Outer Limits 4x4 Board

what are the legalities in NSW reguarding carrying a spare?

can you get booked for not carrying one?

If the vehicle came with one from the factory then you must carry one.

I don't think it matters if it's the same size as the other tyres though, mine's certtainly not. I don't think space-saver are the same size as the real tyres either.

There is no requirement to carry a spare or for it to be roadworthy. Some BMW's dont have them, the just have a can of no leak in the boot, they also have run flat tyres.

There is an ADR, it is ADR23, for passenger car tyres but it just deals with the construction of the actual tyre itself.

Cl 25 in ADR42 deals with tyre and rim selection but does not mandate a spare.

Rule 104 in the Rules for Authorised Inspectors (RTA Handbook) does not include a check for a spare.

Be aware though, once that spare is placed on an axle & being used it is no longer considered a spare, it is then considered a road wheel, for which all the rules apply.

its just that a mate got pulled up on his gu patrol cab chassis and asked where his spare was. the copper let him off with a warning that it was a ~$300 fine for not carrying the spare.

i was just wondering if this is right or the copper was full of it. :/

built2redline wrote:its just that a mate got pulled up on his gu patrol cab chassis and asked where his spare was. the copper let him off with a warning that it was a ~$300 fine for not carrying the spare.

i was just wondering if this is right or the copper was full of it. :/

Maybe there is some other fine for it but as far roadworthyness is concerned its not an issue.

If I was fined for it I would definately argue it.

Maybe the copper was bluffing, he might have quoted the fine for a defect but maybe realised after he said something that it wasnt an issue.

OK so this is for victoria, but I imagine most others would be the same
http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdon ... /VSI26.pdf On page three.

I got my hilux registered and a roadworthy with no spare, had no problems.

Pretty sure they said if you have a spare, it has to have a legal amount of tread on it.

there is no requirement to carry one in NSW

AFAIK Qld requires a spare equivelent to other tyres, wheel brace and jack and basic hand tools be carried.

Motor bikes need basic hand tools also.

Tools would be screw drivers, misc spanners and pliers, like in a OE tool bag.

This is not always enforced though.

So what happens with cars that don't come with that from the factory? Eg any new commodore doesn't include basic tools

jsttry wrote:So what happens with cars that don't come with that from the factory? Eg any new commodore doesn't include basic tools

Don't know, I would assume there would something to cover this. I think there was an amendment to cover space saver tyres, as these are technically illeagal once fitted.

From memory there was a section for spare tyre on my last safety cert.

nastytroll wrote:

jsttry wrote:So what happens with cars that don't come with that from the factory? Eg any new commodore doesn't include basic tools

Don't know, I would assume there would something to cover this. I think there was an amendment to cover space saver tyres, as these are technically illeagal once fitted.

From memory there was a section for spare tyre on my last safety cert.

I would say this is an old regulation that has been overlooked by the Gov.

There are plenty of those around, for instance all Taxis have to have a vynl (sp?) interior in th ACT. I have not seen one with this for at least 10 years & Ford stopped making Taxi packs years ago so it doesnt get enforced. Its still there though.

built2redline wrote:its just that a mate got pulled up on his gu patrol cab chassis and asked where his spare was. the copper let him off with a warning that it was a ~$300 fine for not carrying the spare.

i was just wondering if this is right or the copper was full of it. :/

If it was true the coppers and RTA would be doubling there profits. How many trucks you see these days carrying spares.