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100 series ifs to live axle front conversion???
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:05 pm
by TheBigBoy
Does anyone know if you can get a mod plate for an IFS to LIVE AXLE front 100 series?? Ive made a bunch of calls with no answers. And doesnt anyone know how hard it will be and costs? I dont want to have to get a stock n/a diesel just so I can have the live axle front.
Im after the 4.7 V8 version
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Cheers TBB
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:09 pm
by dumbdunce
there are reasons why it can't be done (or would be very difficult). the V8 sump etc sits right where your diff would be, without massive lift it would be impossible. the IFS chassis is completely different, too - not that it can't be done but it would be very difficult - probably ewasier to try and intall the V8 into a 105 series.
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:45 pm
by roberts
do it diffrent though, 75 diff and leaf springs
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:53 pm
by TheBigBoy
Leaf springs!! EEwwww
Thanks. I heard today that the chassi width is different aswell. WHHYY TOOYYOOTTAA WWWHHHYYY.
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:44 am
by Auto-Craft
you can use a tundra sump and pick up, but you still need a 6" lift to get the room to fit it all.
Set the IFS up right, it will be a much nicer vehicle to drive than the live axle, and wont miss out on much wheel travel.
Heres an 80, and a 100 ifs parked in the same spot, on last years desert trip, the 100 IFS has our Fox long travel set up installed.
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 8:50 am
by TheBigBoy
Thanks assassin - IM IMPRESSED... But you cant compair it to that 80 series, with standard shocks and sway bars still on.
Nice travel still on the ifs. What about the cruiser front cv's? are they very tuff at all? And how much would that 100 series front set up cost me?
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 8:54 am
by 98lux
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:18 am
by TheBigBoy
Thats 1 mother of a build. And I dont think it would get plated in aus. All that time and money, fresh paint, roll bars. Then take it out and flog it
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 3:48 pm
by TheBigBoy
Ive seen some drop brackets for the 100 series. What kind of max lift can you get out of the IFS. Can you disconnect the airbags and do a body lift? What size tyres can you run?
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How much for your kit assassin?
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 8:42 pm
by Auto-Craft
TheBigBoy wrote:Thanks assassin - IM IMPRESSED... But you cant compair it to that 80 series, with standard shocks and sway bars still on.
Nice travel still on the ifs. What about the cruiser front cv's? are they very tuff at all? And how much would that 100 series front set up cost me?
The 80 had 2" lift also, running OME shocks and coils, and both cars still had the sway bars connected, so thats an apples with apples comparison both loaded for trip, right there.
You cant discount one, or the other.
3" is about the max out of the front, and 4" rear, and you can run 35's, like the one in the pics above.
Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 4:25 pm
by TheBigBoy
You sure that 100 series has his sway bars on?? Doesnt look like it to me.
Anyways.. How much did the front set up cost? And is it possible to disconnect the air bags and do a body lift?
Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 11:22 pm
by crankycruiser
I'll bet my left nut that hundred has longer shocks in the rear than the 80.................... look at where the rear wheel in the 80 has dropped compared to the hundred.. the arse is doing all the work.....
LOL @ ifs being as good as solid.. its never guna happen..... well not without a full custom set up like the desert racers use.. and thats not designed for flex aye
Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 11:28 pm
by TheBigBoy
. Yeah I think we all know that already. And considering I was under the front of a 100 series ifs today and there is a dirty great big sway bar lookin at me that isnt in THAT photo.
Disconnect the shcok and remove sway bars/ extend break lines and the ifs is never going to win. But you have to admit the ifs holds up pretty good in that picture. Im still impressed. All be it you will snap cv's alot easier.
Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 11:30 pm
by TheBigBoy
Here is a comparison.
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Maybe with a little bit of front end work
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 11:41 pm
by crankycruiser
lol nah bigboy... thats the equivilent lol...
both have been "tweaked" a lil! thats a fair comparo ! haha
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:05 am
by TheBigBoy
Man those yanks have thought of everything. I just found prefabbed strut extensions. 2 hours to fit. upto 2" lift and retain factory drive (torsion bars, coils etc.) Although I realise you have to change your shocks and drop your diff for extra travel and reduced wear and tear. Thats a bloody cheap 3" lift if all your after is height.
They also have procomp 6" lift set ups that look sweet as for the 100 series, Optional coil overs (just like live axle coil suspension). Or a cpmpletely tuned 3" lift.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:08 am
by 80's_delirious
the comparo pics of the 100 and 80 above have the two cars in slightly different positions. (check shadow cast by front wheel) actually looks abit like the 100 has been photoshopped into the pic
a small change in line or tyre placement can make a big difference so maybe not apples to apples maybe more like grannysmith to pinklady (ones sour, the other sweeet)
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 3:20 pm
by dow50r
I have heard of ppl doing solid front diffs in their t/d/v8 100's...i have also heard the gears from the ifs will fit in the RFS diff centre...so ratios can be changed...
Andrew
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 5:10 pm
by TheBigBoy
Where have you heard the solid axle 100 series V8 conversions from? Noone does thm unless you go a 6" lift. I dont want to go that high.
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 7:36 pm
by v8zuki
easiest way is change the chassis and get a surroget vin
you will have all the travel you need and yes the body will bolt straight on
need different bars if you have them front and rear
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:42 pm
by dow50r
TheBigBoy wrote:Where have you heard the solid axle 100 series V8 conversions from? Noone does thm unless you go a 6" lift. I dont want to go that high.
On here...never done one myself, only read about it....may have been t/d not v8...but was ifs to rfs. Brundswick diesel do chev v8 conversions and use v8 5 speed 3.9 ratio in the rfs diffs, thats how i know they interchange. If you dont want to go high, then save the hassle and put a locker in the IFS and a diff lowering bracket as suggested earlier. Better on road, and works ok off aswell
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:46 pm
by TheBigBoy
Mate, Ive just learnt about the 02 sahara and lexus and on. WHAT A MACHINE. Im going to go buy 1 of them.
They have ifs front but air ride height adjustable suspension. 3 settings low, med, high. Flick of a switch gives you 4" lift all round. Put it in low and it automatically lifts another 2" ontop of that.
Stability control (self levels the 4x4 on un even terain. Adjustable ride shocks (sports mode etc). It leans into corners. It has a propper geared steering. Normal at 100kph but only have to turn it half way to full lock when at rolling speed.
Traction control includes lockers. And if fully adjustable for extra slip when needed.
And finally. Factory TRD superchargers that take it to 330bhp with eco 14 litre per 100.
Im sold..
No live axle for me.