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3" Disco lift??

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:31 pm
by GUJohnno
We want to lift my mates Disco 3". Just wondering what gear others have used and has there been any complications?

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:34 pm
by Slunnie
D1 or D2?

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 8:17 pm
by GUJohnno
Series 1 update with twin airbags.

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:05 pm
by DiscoDino
Front OME 764 rear OME 762 with 3/4 spacer
Front N73, rear N25 (or 29)

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:52 pm
by Slunnie
Does the D1 need X-member spacing, brake lines, ABS lines with that setup DiscoDino?

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 11:25 pm
by WBDISCO
No crossmember spacing, but possible brake lines if longer shocks are used. The ABS lines are probably long enough so long as you pull them down a little.

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 2:53 am
by DiscoDino
Ihave longer brake lines due to the 2" BL and the longer shocks (mentioned above). Not sure which variable in particular needed these longer shocks, but it is VERY important to have longer/better brake lines.

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 5:19 am
by red90
Wellllll

At 3" I'd correct the castor. Either with offset bushings or modified radius arms.

If you go with longer shocks, you'll need spring retainers.

Make sure the front propshaft u-joints are perfect as this is getting near the limit of a u-jointed front shaft.

2" spring lift is much cheaper and easier.......

Personally, I think 764s are way too stiff for the front of a Disco. You would want to have a lot of eztra weight up there.

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 7:08 am
by Bodge
red90 wrote:
Personally, I think 764s are way too stiff for the front of a Disco. You would want to have a lot of eztra weight up there.


I find the same on the Rangie - 2 batteries steel bull bar and 8274 with steel cable and the 764's are still too stiff. I would try 180 - 220...

Remember it also makes a difference if you are too lightly sprung in the rear - A stiffer rear spring will make the front work more...

Johnno

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 7:35 am
by Britswed
Being in Vic mate its pretty hard to go past Rangie spares springs.

Cheers Mal

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 10:41 am
by red90
You might be able to use stock rears in the front . If you want to know for sure, figure it out exactly. I have some nice newer more accurate data on the newer Disco rears. This would certainly be lighter than the 764s (and less lift). The older rears NTC5527 would give more lift than the newer dual rate jobbys NRC8044/5 but have the same normal spring rate. Otherwise the OME761s are good for the from with a winch and bumper.

LR Coil Spring Data

As stated, Rangie Spares has a better range selection (IME) and are cheaper. I'd call them up and talk as they have lots of real experience in seeing what works well in specific vehicles. They are certainly my first choice for springs (when I'm in your lovely Country).

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:48 pm
by DiscoDino
The 764s ARE 220lb/in rated, the "correct" OME HD front 2" spring for rovers are the 751s which are 230lb/in, which are stiffer (by 4.5% :finger: ).

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:20 am
by red90
I said "Personally, I believe".... I've used 761s on a Stock Disco... They were too stiff. Those are 200 lb/in. And BTW, I believe the 764s are 240 lb/in. See my page. There is a lot of confusion over the rating of that spring.

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:19 am
by Slunnie
Expedition Exchange have them marked as 220lb/in
https://www.expeditionexchange.com/ome/indexsprings.htm

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:47 am
by red90
Yes I know......

How about we stop arguing over ARB. Phone Andrew up at Rangie Spares.

1) They are 75% the cost.
2) He is open and honest about his spring rates.
3) He will be able to give useful knowledge of whether the fronts should be 180 or 220 lb/in based on what the ACTUAL Discovery in question is and what the ACTUAL owner wants with respect to softness/hardnees of the suspension.
4) He makes a wonderful selection of lengths in 180 and 220 ib/in..... Some of the longer ones are REALLY handy if you are putting in longer shocks.

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:51 am
by Bodge
DiscoDino wrote:The 764s ARE 220lb/in rated, the "correct" OME HD front 2" spring for rovers are the 751s which are 230lb/in, which are stiffer (by 4.5% :finger: ).


Don't care what is says on paper - I used them based on the paper recomendation and they are too stiff :finger:

And I like arguing damn it!!!!!!

:finger: :finger: :finger: :finger:

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 5:42 pm
by DiscoDino
Bodge...If you're enjoying this, then I'll have to soil it for ya: "I agree with you"

:finger:

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 9:51 pm
by DiscoMicheal
Thanks guys.........looks like we'll be giving Rangie Spares a call. Might try Greame Cooper as well.
Next is the storafe system..........got to try and squeeze the Engle in.

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 10:36 pm
by Slunnie
Graeme Cooper sells the Rangie Spares stuff anyway.

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:52 am
by Bodge
DiscoDino wrote:Bodge...If you're enjoying this, then I'll have to soil it for ya: "I agree with you"

:finger:


Damn it!

I am off back to Pirate to argue about body lifts!!!!! :D

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:29 pm
by DiscoDino
HAHAHA

Whatever you say, the BL has its use :armsup:

If I remember correctly, it was a Dweb that the BL was fully trashed by the "special" people there.

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:45 pm
by Bodge
Nah I am pro BL - after all I have one....

Interested in finding out ways around it without big spring lifts though...

If we are going to jack this thread lets do it properly :finger:

Highjack

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 7:59 pm
by DiscoDino
"This one time...at band camp..."
:finger: