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vitara 1.6

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 10:07 pm
by ajsr
hey all
can someone tell me what year vitara 1.6's went to efi?
what year for center point?
what year for multi point?
where these early 1.6's ok motors?

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 11:04 pm
by Santos
centrepoints where only in north american market

the early motors werent bad just not exciting 55kws but the torque is there i guess

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:15 am
by Gwagensteve
All 4door vitaras are MPI in the australian market, I think the first year for the 4 door was 1991.

SWB's went MPI in late 1994.

Yes they are OK. Carby 1.6's have a habit of cracking the block between the welsh plugs on the drivers side. EFI's have a habit of cracking the heads, but by now, any motor on the market should be sound (i.e it should have already happened)

I wouldn't bother with a vitara EFI motor though as they are dizzy, AFM and have that nasty crossover pipe, they are also more $$ than baleno.

Baleno needs the water pipe and sump mods for the crank angle sensor but then gives you coil packs, MAP and a newer motor (and another 10Kw, I think)

Steve.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:33 am
by nicbeer
Crossover?

U mean the intake pipe that goes over the head?

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:51 am
by Gwagensteve
Yep.

Baleno manifold is like the Jimny one

Steve.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:18 am
by Santos
careful the first balenos where dizzy
and the first swift based 1.6 where tbi 16v in australia the where mainly sedans

i can only guess but the sierra waterpipe should still do the job on a 1.6 block right?

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:55 am
by Gwagensteve
Yes, and the dizzy baleno would be terrible - straight out the back.

The TBI swift isn't a great candidate - it also has a funny water arrangement.

No, the thermostat housing on a sierra/vitara is on the inlet manifold. There's no provision on a baleno/swift. Vitara and jimny manifolds have the thermostat housing in the right spot.

Steve.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:44 am
by Highway-Star
And the later Grand Vitara G16B (coil pack) is like the Baleno/Jimny inlet, with it coming out the front, however the plenum still raises at the back like the earlier Vitara (Presumably so the plenum sits level in the GV at normal ride). which means the GV engine requires lowering in the Sierra, or a Body lift. No crank sensor in the sump either, is cam sensor.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:47 am
by Santos
oooh a cam angle sensor and coil pack, can the cam sensor be retrofitted on dizzy cams? (assuming you use aftermarket ecu)

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:48 am
by Highway-Star
Santos wrote:oooh a cam angle sensor and coil pack, can the cam sensor be retrofitted on dizzy cams? (assuming you use aftermarket ecu)
Dont have a clue, sorry. can get pics up of the housing this arvo or tomorrow if they are of any use to you?
Sorry but Im not keen to pull out the cam to look at the end of that ;)

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 12:28 pm
by Gwagensteve
Nope.

Coil pack cams have a keyway on the back of them and dizzy cams have a gear.

The cams themselves are interchangeable and aren't all that dear from suzuki.

Steve.