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Has any one used these headlight upgrades so you can use H4's?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Suzuki-Sierra-Sa ... 7C294%3A50

If so, any feedback?

This is the same focal lense in a GQ with 100/130w H4 globes and a headlight loom upgrade. Headlights are as bright as spottys on low beam. CJ is also doing a similar thing with his rig running those headlights with 100/130 globes.

Noice, I think I'll be getting myself a pair will have to upgrade the loom for sure.

Thanks for the reply!

Yes, that is what I have decided to run along with a loom upgrade. Anything has to be better than the standard candle powered sealed beams it had.

dank wrote: Headlights are as bright as spottys on low beam.

Far out, that would be nice and considerate for on coming traffic!
What are they like on high beam?

Dan

Another route to go is the IPF headlight inserts (sold through arb and others)
these are good quality lenses and good light output.

i am running these with 100/55's

nicbeer wrote:Another route to go is the IPF headlight inserts (sold through arb and others)
these are good quality lenses and good light output.

i am running these with 100/55's

yeah, i got those on my Holden Drover. Back in 05 or 06 it cost me $480 fitted (with those 'fat boy' globes). The brightness was awesome, but the problem I had with those $150 fat boy globes is that one of them used to blow every 9 months or so, and then I was up for $75 each time. I decided to scrap the extra expensive IPF globes and get Cibie 100/55w H4 globes for $26 each. The low beam isn't as bright as those 'Fat Boy;' globes from IPF/ ARB, but the high beam is just a little bit brighter.

hid kit!!!!!!!!!!!!
the best upgrade after you change the lenses over

hillbilliywheelchair wrote:hid kit!!!!!!!!!!!!
the best upgrade after you change the lenses over

And completely blinding to oncoming traffic if you don't have self-levellers and all the other gear required for HID to be used as headlights...

I fitted some 7" round H4 headlight inserts from Sprint Autoparts for about $70 a pair, plus some Philips Ultra Blue 55/65W (from memory) globes. That + loom upgrade + Lightforce XGT's with 55W HID kit is more than enough light for normal night driving and doesn't dazzle anyone.

Popped in some 100/130 H4's for a quick trial and got flashed a number of times during a half hour drive. Only thing worse than you not being able to see the road is an oncoming driver being able to see nothing but you.....

hillbilliywheelchair wrote:hid kit!!!!!!!!!!!!
the best upgrade after you change the lenses over

Very expensive to do correctly and legally. DON'T used those cheap ebay HID H4 retrofit. You will become a hazzard to all oncomming traffic at night. To do a HID conversion correctly you will need to replace your reflectors/projectors to ones that were designed for HID bulbs.

For the technical read here

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech ... sions.html

If you can't be bothered at least watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVuSSdZN ... r_embedded

Not to mention the self leveling suspension or self leveling bulbs, and headlight cleaners etc. you will need to make the legal.

JrZook wrote:

dank wrote: Headlights are as bright as spottys on low beam.

Far out, that would be nice and considerate for on coming traffic!
What are they like on high beam?

Dan

yep, absolutely.

Crap I say.

just fit HID kits to the lights,not cheap,but heaps brighter and alot less power consumption leaving more capacity on the altenator for other stuff

A properly adjusted headlight with a H4 filament bulb in a higher wattage will produce the same light pattern as a standard bulb, but providing more light within that pattern. It should have no ill effects for oncoming traffic.

Some of the issues with HID bulbs are the focal length of the globe in comparison to a H4 bulb. The HID bulb is normally longer and the light tends to be produced further towards the lens of the headlight. This may be a glare issue. Properly adjusted, the glare can be minimise and you could make a spacer to space the globe further back in the headlight to improve the light output. Think of a maglite, when you twist the head and the globe gets closer to the lense the pattern widens, as it retracts to the back of the reflecter the pattern tightens.

The standard headlights on some older vehicles are crap. In most conditions you are probably more at risk driving with crap headlights than the risk of increased glare for oncoming traffic. Anyway each to their own.