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can you extend the mounts on the chassis ? not the shackel end the other?

cheers damo

Yes, you can.. But...

Extending the shackle will allow the leaf to flex better so you get the lift advantage as well as flex...

was gunna do both 2'' shackel and 1-2 '' out the back with extra bracing welded in , she's a pure off tracker

Ruffy wrote:Yes, you can.. But...

Extending the shackle will allow the leaf to flex better so you get the lift advantage as well as flex...

how does extending the shackle allow the spring to flex 'better'?

joeblow wrote:

Ruffy wrote:Yes, you can.. But...

Extending the shackle will allow the leaf to flex better so you get the lift advantage as well as flex...

how does extending the shackle allow the spring to flex 'better'?

I think he means if he drops the spring mount and shackle mounts down there will be more room between diff and bump stop better up flex but same down flex

easeupturbo wrote:was gunna do both 2'' shackel and 1-2 '' out the back with extra bracing welded in , she's a pure off tracker

Yes, do both. If you just extend one end then you alter the caster, doing both will help retain correct caster angle.

joeblow wrote:

Ruffy wrote:Yes, you can.. But...

Extending the shackle will allow the leaf to flex better so you get the lift advantage as well as flex...

how does extending the shackle allow the spring to flex 'better'?

Why is the sky blue?

[/quote]Why is the sky blue?[/quote]


cause if it were green it'll look wierd

Some one want to explain this a little more.

Assume rear diff, is that right?

You are going to move the shackle mount back is that right. Or are you moving the fixed end of the spring back.

Any time you move the spring mounts it'll stuff with your shackle angle which can make it ride really roung if the shackle is too vertical. If your moving the mounts it sounds like you're going to need longer leaves.

Ruffy wrote:

joeblow wrote:

Ruffy wrote:Yes, you can.. But...

Extending the shackle will allow the leaf to flex better so you get the lift advantage as well as flex...

how does extending the shackle allow the spring to flex 'better'?

Why is the sky blue?

The sun produces white light, which is made up of light of all colours: red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo and violet - these are the colours you find in a rainbow. Light is a wave and each of these colours corresponds to a different frequency, and therefore wavelength, of light.

When the white light from the sun shines through the Earth's atmosphere, it collides with gas molecules. It is these molecules that scatter the light. Blue light has a high frequency, and it is scattered ten times more than red light.

Hence, Blue sky....

where the fixed point of the springs is i was wanting to cut off and space down another 1 or 2 '' and then put 2'' extended shackels on

easeupturbo wrote:where the fixed point of the springs is i was wanting to cut off and space down another 1 or 2 '' and then put 2'' extended shackels on

Now that makes more sense.

I would not do that, I dont see any good reason. If you are aiming for lift, buy some lifted springs. If you want to correct the caster from the extended shackles, get caster wedges or rotate the perches on the axles.

easeupturbo wrote:where the fixed point of the springs is i was wanting to cut off and space down another 1 or 2 '' and then put 2'' extended shackels on

dont bother spacing it down at all. if anything, move it back along the rail and fit a longer leaf. that will help gain more flex, pending what leafs you select, wont affect your approch, and make it ride lots nicer.

Highway-Star wrote:

easeupturbo wrote:where the fixed point of the springs is i was wanting to cut off and space down another 1 or 2 '' and then put 2'' extended shackels on

Now that makes more sense.

I would not do that, I dont see any good reason. If you are aiming for lift, buy some lifted springs. If you want to correct the caster from the extended shackles, get caster wedges or rotate the perches on the axles.

But dont flatter springs give better flex than lifted (therefore more arched) springs

mike_nofx wrote:

Highway-Star wrote:

easeupturbo wrote:where the fixed point of the springs is i was wanting to cut off and space down another 1 or 2 '' and then put 2'' extended shackels on

Now that makes more sense.

I would not do that, I dont see any good reason. If you are aiming for lift, buy some lifted springs. If you want to correct the caster from the extended shackles, get caster wedges or rotate the perches on the axles.

But dont flatter springs give better flex than lifted (therefore more arched) springs

Potentially better droop, yes. But honestly how much arch are you going to put in the spring, and how much flex do you want out of it?

i just wanna do a cheap lift at the moment to fit 31 then when i get the money do a spring over , i'm going to put a body lift in soon , the hole car costed me $200 and i don't wanna spend the money on a car that might not last this winter cause i thrash the living shit out of it , if it lasts the winter then it'll go in the shed and will get all the proper things done to it ,

easeupturbo wrote:i just wanna do a cheap lift at the moment to fit 31 then when i get the money do a spring over , i'm going to put a body lift in soon , the hole car costed me $200 and i don't wanna spend the money on a car that might not last this winter cause i thrash the living shit out of it , if it lasts the winter then it'll go in the shed and will get all the proper things done to it ,

Just to fit the 31s, do the body lift, it is the cheapest way, you will still probably need to hammer flat the wheel arch seams, and maybe move the front axle forward a little bit (Search for more info). Also the body lift should be reversable, your idea of lifting perches could be undone but would be a hell of allot more work. If you are planning SPOA then you want to be able to remove all other forms of lift when you do that.

easeupturbo wrote:i just wanna do a cheap lift at the moment to fit 31 then when i get the money do a spring over , i'm going to put a body lift in soon , the hole car costed me $200 and i don't wanna spend the money on a car that might not last this winter cause i thrash the living shit out of it , if it lasts the winter then it'll go in the shed and will get all the proper things done to it ,

If your planning a SPOA - forget a body lift, especially for 31's.

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