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Hi all just to let you all know that Hella has just release the new internal ballast Preadator there are only 2 in Australia till next week and i have one of them here are some photo i have just done but flat battery in camera have stop me takeing any more yes i will take order they come in 2 sizes one is 170mm and 222mm



steve
your Hella specialise

Will they melt the other drivers eyes when you flash them for leaving high beams on?

very well could do with 42w in total
steve

how many kajillion $ are they pr?

Given that these awesome looking things are without a doubt outside my price range, what do you guys reckon is the best bang-for-bucks (or lux-for-bucks) option in HID spotlights right now? ie best performance for a few hundred dollars a pair?

dunno about best performance but i have a set of rallly 2000 both spot beam that i have fitted hid globes to and they work well. I use both spot beams due to the fact that since the new globe isnt quite in the same spot as the old normal one it seems to give a decent spread aswell as depth of light.

chimpboy wrote:Given that these awesome looking things are without a doubt outside my price range, what do you guys reckon is the best bang-for-bucks (or lux-for-bucks) option in HID spotlights right now? ie best performance for a few hundred dollars a pair?

Rally 4000's with HID kit off ebay.

about $1300 each and that is with a 3year warranty
steve
the rallye 4000 $445 a set

on4tou wrote:about $1300 each and that is with a 3year warranty

"kathunk!" (coxy falls off his chair)

on4tou wrote:about $1300 each and that is with a 3year warranty

Nothing against steve, but at those prices, who are they marketing them towards? Toorak people who never use them but *MUST* have them to show the boi's at the golf club??

Can imagine the reply from insurance company when you said
"2x hella spotlights, $2600"

I'm sure that they're worth every cent, being the best of the best, but the only people i can see buying them is motorsport (rally, OBC etc), and possibly the bling mob.

Call insurance company

a)"Hi. I would like to get some insurance for some lights."
b)"Yes, thats fine. Do they have any aftermarket accessories?"
a)"Umm, yes. They have a Nissan Patrol fitted to them."
b)"Oh....(keyboard tapping away in background)"
a)"If thats going to affect the insurance premium, i can take the Patrol off the lights."

yes i know that they are abit xxx but you get what you pay for but they do sell a lot of the preadator now and this is about the same price yes they are not for everbody but there is a lot of baby boomers out there one of the comp guy is getting 2 set and they should be on his car by round 3 . I wasn't trying to sell the to you (yes i was ) all just letting you know about a new product
the insurance quote was priceless[quote][/quote]
a)"Hi. I would like to get some insurance for some lights."
b)"Yes, thats fine. Do they have any aftermarket accessories?"
a)"Umm, yes. They have a Nissan Patrol fitted to them."
b)"Oh....(keyboard tapping away in background)"
a)"If thats going to affect the insurance premium, i can take the Patrol off the lights."

steve

coxy321 wrote:I'm sure that they're worth every cent, being the best of the best, but the only people i can see buying them is motorsport (rally, OBC etc), and possibly the bling mob.

Call insurance company

a)"Hi. I would like to get some insurance for some lights."
b)"Yes, thats fine. Do they have any aftermarket accessories?"
a)"Umm, yes. They have a Nissan Patrol fitted to them."
b)"Oh....(keyboard tapping away in background)"
a)"If thats going to affect the insurance premium, i can take the Patrol off the lights."

on4tou wrote:yes i know that they are abit xxx but you get what you pay for but they do sell a lot of the preadator now and this is about the same price yes they are not for everbody but there is a lot of baby boomers out there one of the comp guy is getting 2 set and they should be on his car by round 3 . I wasn't trying to sell the to you (yes i was ) all just letting you know about a new product
the insurance quote was priceless

how do these compare to the 70W KC hilite HID pods? they are about the same $'s

http://www.kchilites.com/store/KC-POD-L ... 3C142.aspx

Single Carbon Fiber Light POD

Ultra Bright 70 Watt 4200K HID!
Fixed Mounted, Super Light Weight & Strong 7.25" 100% Carbon Fiber Housing
MSR (Multi-Surface Reflector) Optics Technology!
Unbreakable, Hard Coated Lexan Lens
Long Range Beam Pattern
Spring Loaded Lens Assembly for Quick and Accurate Beam Adjustment
External Self Mounted 70w HID Ballast
Stainless Steel Mounting Hardware

Nothing says "Steal me" like writing HID on the rim of the light.

$2600 makes for a very attractive target.

TheOtherLeft wrote:Nothing says "Steal me" like writing HID on the rim of the light.

$2600 makes for a very attractive target.

Call me when you get your set fitted up.

it has me stumped , what is the light made from that costs so much , is the light filament made from unobtainium or something even at less than 1/4 of the purchase price ( $300 ) , what would cost that much in one light ?????


or is it just a bling / supply and demand thing ???

its aford not a nissan wrote:it has me stumped , what is the light made from that costs so much , is the light filament made from unobtainium or something even at less than 1/4 of the purchase price ( $300 ) , what would cost that much in one light ?????


or is it just a bling / supply and demand thing ???

I think it would be the R&D side of things.

Give it a few years and there will be something new on the market that costs 1k+ and HIDs will be cheaper.

coxy321 wrote:

TheOtherLeft wrote:Nothing says "Steal me" like writing HID on the rim of the light.

$2600 makes for a very attractive target.

Call me when you get your set fitted up.

Mate my driving lights are $30 specials from Supercrap as I don't do much night country driving. No way I'd shell out that much coin for a pair of lights.

RockyF75 wrote:Give it a few years and there will be something new on the market that costs 1k+ and HIDs will be cheaper.

Agree.. but there are other HID's are out there for under a grand... quality, who knows.

after having a demo on these i would have to say they a brillant light for a 35ws they a very good. i have use a lot of different hid lights in the past few year ranging from 35w to 100w and these thing leave them for dead. the light that they display is on it own the spread beam that i had was that bright with 1 i would hate to see 2 or even more together and as they do say you pay for what you get

150$ for a 50w HID kit
200$ for a pair of used quality spotlights.
CIBIE, PIAA or HELLA

30 mins to fit the HID's ( in some lights there is enough room behind the reflector to install a slimline ballast)

I just fitted the 35w HID's to my hayabusa, and dont know how the hell i lived without them for the past 10 years!!!!!

Jes

jessie928 wrote:150$ for a 50w HID kit
200$ for a pair of used quality spotlights.
CIBIE, PIAA or HELLA

30 mins to fit the HID's ( in some lights there is enough room behind the reflector to install a slimline ballast)

I just fitted the 35w HID's to my hayabusa, and dont know how the hell i lived without them for the past 10 years!!!!!

Jes

Ebay 50w kits are $100 delivered, fit them to brand new Nightstalker 170's at $100 and you have the best bang for buck around, even if the others are better at 12 times the price i doubt there 12 times as good.

does anyone have a link to which kit to use? do these improve over the standard hallogens very well with just the ebay kits?

Sorry all but i think you have miss the point of the post. I was just letting you all know about a new product out .
The KC pod light are a great looking light as well but they cost $2200 US a set .
I sell after market HID kits for headlights, driving lights, hand helds, etc, etc, etc. Hid's and driving lights are all I do and as far as value for money goes you can't beat an after market kit fitted tou your current spotties. But if you want a top quality light you will not beat the Originals. It's not just about the hid, but the new pradators run a much higher quality lense and reflector especially designed for hid's (as with the kc) so you get a far superior light output. Hella spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on r & d and testing machines. You should see the set up in the factory. I could probably even organise a tour if anyone is interested and you could see for yourselves how much actually goes into the r & d light development.
Zook_Fan just give me a call or pm me if you after info or follow the link to our ebay site.
Cheers
Steve

well , im not that scared of the dark, and i dont drive fast enough for the need to see 2 suburbs away , and i dont intend on lighting up a footy field ( although it would be good for toad golf ) i think i will stick to my cheapies , or if i get exited , maybe some hid inserts

on4tou wrote:Sorry all but i think you have miss the point of the post. I was just letting you all know about a new product out .
The KC pod light are a great looking light as well but they cost $2200 US a set .

Steve.
Dont think anyone was having a go at you... I think they are having a go at these companies that think just cause you own a 4wd your part of the Packer empire lighting Cuban's off old paper $50 notes.

I didn't think it was a persoanl attack at me. But come on bogged be a , you own a 4wd so we all know your loaded. Why not buy a set and let us all know how they go.
steve

on4tou wrote:I didn't think it was a persoanl attack at me. But come on bogged be a , you own a 4wd so we all know your loaded. Why not buy a set and let us all know how they go.
steve

You give me a set for testing.. I'll return them if I dont like them.. if I do like them, I'll keep em..
Deal?

on4tou wrote:Sorry all but i think you have miss the point of the post. I was just letting you all know about a new product out .
The KC pod light are a great looking light as well but they cost $2200 US a set .
I sell after market HID kits for headlights, driving lights, hand helds, etc, etc, etc. Hid's and driving lights are all I do and as far as value for money goes you can't beat an after market kit fitted tou your current spotties. But if you want a top quality light you will not beat the Originals. It's not just about the hid, but the new pradators run a much higher quality lense and reflector especially designed for hid's (as with the kc) so you get a far superior light output. Hella spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on r & d and testing machines. You should see the set up in the factory. I could probably even organise a tour if anyone is interested and you could see for yourselves how much actually goes into the r & d light development.
Zook_Fan just give me a call or pm me if you after info or follow the link to our ebay site.
Cheers
Steve

Opps I probably should have said that I got nothing against these, if you have that sorta money spare no probs, i only wrote the bit I did for those who cant quite stretch the 2.6k lol, no offense to you or Hella im sure their great.