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Hi all, I am looking at going to a set of beadlocks on my play tyres, just wondering what the general thoughts are to either of the above. I have mates with both and they all reckon theirs are the way to go. I thought that I was going to go internal unitl last trip when one car had trouble with them and ended up tearing the valve stem out of the inner tube. I know that they are illegal on the road but this is not a deciding factor. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Jafo74

for play tyres only go mechanical.

You wont pop them.

JAFO74 wrote:Hi all, I am looking at going to a set of beadlocks on my play tyres, just wondering what the general thoughts are to either of the above. I have mates with both and they all reckon theirs are the way to go. I thought that I was going to go internal unitl last trip when one car had trouble with them and ended up tearing the valve stem out of the inner tube. I know that they are illegal on the road but this is not a deciding factor. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Jafo74

The reason the valve gets ripped off the tube is because people don't know how to fit them properly. The valves have to be on the flat part of the wheel but people put them on the edge like a normal valve which naturally twists the tube.

Cheers Mick.

the way i see it is you have 2 options:

1 : Buy internals , realise theyre crap and youve burnt your cash then go buy externals

or

2:Buy Externals from the start and be happy


BTW I did option 1 and cant recommend it

My 2c

cant really recomend internals, ive had lots of problems.
externals only lock outer bead and you can still loose the inner bead.

Go External...I had internals and had heaps of problems breaking valves and still getting dirt between the bead even though they had the requires pressure.

the inner bead rarely comes off as the bead is massive compared to the front (almost twice the size).

if your still worried core do a double bead lock (inside and outside bead) but you need a 17 inch rim or bigger to fit.

i had trouble with internals slow leaking because of crap in the bead, fixed it by running a bead of sicaflex around every tyre.

BASSYK wrote:the way i see it is you have 2 options:

1 : Buy internals , realise theyre crap and youve burnt your cash then go buy externals

or

2:Buy Externals from the start and be happy


BTW I did option 1 and cant recommend it

My 2c

x2

I had internal locks and they shook all over the bloody show. NO one would balance them, so i got them taken out and i threw them in the bin. Staun are usless, get external and enjoy trouble free motoring.

Thanks all, it seems that the decision has been made... go external (mechanical) which is what i was thinking. Thanks fr the input, Jafo74

The only time you have problems with internals is when they aren't fitted properly or they aren't maintained. Don't let a few opinions cloud the real facts!

nzdarin wrote:The only time you have problems with internals is when they aren't fitted properly or they aren't maintained. Don't let a few opinions cloud the real facts!

i cant agree on that one, unless your idea of maintenance is to strip them down after every drive.
i reckon the 60 odd PSI that you can run in them isnt enough to fully clamp that bead, and during really big impacts the bead must seperate momentarily and let crap in before reseating.
worth noting though is that ive only used internals with 1 wheel & tyre combo, ie 37/10.5/16 on both 7 & 8 inch rims and i never air down below 10 PSI.
And i think the real facts! are that heaps of people have dramas with them and Stauns after sales service is pretty ordinary.
maybe Tirelok or Secondairs would be better.

my 2 c

mechanical all the way

you always know you bead is tight or you have a flat ! no questions or doubts about what the inner lock is doing

I have had external locks on mine for around a year and haven't had one problem.
The critical thing is to get some one who knows what they are doing to weld them on. Get that part right and you'll have no issues.
I bought new unpainted rims to weld the ring on and then got them powder coated.
Even with them sitting around for 3 months between uses have never had them deflate.