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GQ swb body lift and master cyl brake lines?
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:17 pm
by banjes
hey been looking at the brake lines on my GQ shorty as i want to do a body lift possibly this weekend
what is the go with the brake line that goes from the brake master to the crossover brake block thing thats bolted to the chassis?
what have people done with that got me puzzled abit
everything else looks like it should go smoothly ,maybe the clutch slave cylinder line but ill work that out i guess
shit dunno if this will make sense to some but if you have body lifted a shorty you should know what im on about
cheers in advance
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:28 pm
by xm302
u stretch that coil line a bit to allow
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:26 pm
by Nelso
Didn't have to bother with it when I did mine. I ended up pulling the body lift out a couple of years later though as they are sh!t on a Patrol. I would seriously think twice before doing it. Read a heap of threads about this topic before you go ahead and do it, you might save yourself some time and money.
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:08 pm
by mudmav
Just bend the bracket down abit to allow for the lift or go get an extended line and fit that if you want, i just bent mine and no probs 2 yeas later
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:19 pm
by twodiffs
Nelso wrote:Didn't have to bother with it when I did mine. I ended up pulling the body lift out a couple of years later though as they are sh!t on a Patrol. I would seriously think twice before doing it. Read a heap of threads about this topic before you go ahead and do it, you might save yourself some time and money.
Thats one of the best bits of advice i've seen all week!
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:45 pm
by bogged
twodiffs wrote:Nelso wrote:Didn't have to bother with it when I did mine. I ended up pulling the body lift out a couple of years later though as they are sh!t on a Patrol. I would seriously think twice before doing it. Read a heap of threads about this topic before you go ahead and do it, you might save yourself some time and money.
Thats one of the best bits of advice i've seen all week!
x eleventy.. but this dude would have searched and already known they suck bottom.
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:36 pm
by mudmav
i also agree with the above comment, i still have my body lift in because i cant be bothered getting/modifiying bars to suit no body lift. But if i had my time again i would go no body lift a 3 inch lift and a massive guard chop
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:16 pm
by banjes
yeah ive read all the threads saying nah nah nah they are shit , but still deciding whether i should do it next w/e ,my 3 inch suspension lift is doing alright the guards and 35s have come to terms with each other lol and hardly rub anymore but still
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:15 pm
by Yom
I think its only "crap" on the GQs because the bodymounts are shit and wear out relatively quickly.
a properly designed body lift with brand new body mounts (solid block, same or larger diameter than the contact area of the body mount with upsized washers inside to help spread the load) and there wouldn't be that much increased wear.
personally i wouldnt do it. just my thoughts on the matter.
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:12 am
by Reddo
I bought mine with a 3 inch in it, and after i had to tighten it down myself it seams fine (i drive it once a year btw). When i get some time, its coming out, and i'll molest the guards with a grinder. I dont get fussed if the guards are rubbing, i lol
get good blocks if your going to do it.,..
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:33 am
by mrmud78
Nelso wrote:Didn't have to bother with it when I did mine. I ended up pulling the body lift out a couple of years later though as they are sh!t on a Patrol. I would seriously think twice before doing it. Read a heap of threads about this topic before you go ahead and do it, you might save yourself some time and money.
good call nelso
i had a 3" boady lift under my shorty and on my way back down from cape york i ripped holes in the floor were the back four bolts come through the floor
i had to cut down a small tree and place it between the cab and chas then put a strap over the roof and tye it down to get back to cairns to have it repaird
long trip at 60kph
never putting a boady lift in again
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:37 am
by Yom
mrmud78 wrote:Nelso wrote:Didn't have to bother with it when I did mine. I ended up pulling the body lift out a couple of years later though as they are sh!t on a Patrol. I would seriously think twice before doing it. Read a heap of threads about this topic before you go ahead and do it, you might save yourself some time and money.
good call nelso
i had a 3" boady lift under my shorty and on my way back down from cape york i ripped holes in the floor were the back four bolts come through the floor
i had to cut down a small tree and place it between the cab and chas then put a strap over the roof and tye it down to get back to cairns to have it repaird
long trip at 60kph
never putting a boady lift in again
GQs tear the rear body to bits without bodylifts installed so its a bit hard to blame your issue on the lift.
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:02 pm
by mrmud78
ye thats true i was allso towing a trailer
so that dident help at all
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:34 pm
by Jake GQ..
all i did was get under the care and pull the steel brake line away from the body due to the fact that it reasts against the body and it idnot look to good. my persional apinion of body lifts is they are great. i also had to cut about an inch of the bottom radiater hose to get the kink out of it. goodluck
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:01 pm
by banjes
cheers jake
im doing the body lift regardless, as i have a front tube winch bar to suit 2" lift
itll be fine. dunno what the fuss about them is really body lift meh just do it
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:16 am
by gusto
I stretched the coil out a bit for my 2" lift, worked ok for about 2years then got a fatigue crack in the middle of the simpson... not too fun.
I would suggest making up a new line to suit the bodylift and ensuring adequate flexibilty in the line and clearence.
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:23 pm
by banjes
i put the body lift in no dramas ,dunno what all you people are on about saying body lifts are no good
firstly tyres dont hit guards and i feel less bumps from the road in the cabin ...smoother ride,plus looks alot better
only thing is rear 2 bolts are hard to get out as the nuts strip off the bracket and spin
easy
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:07 pm
by Nelso
banjes wrote:easy
For now. Give it time and the problems will come. You could have solved your tyre issues with a grinder and kept the lower centre of gravity. It wont bother you too much, until you start driving hard tracks. After you put it on it's side you will want to take the body lift back out like so many have before.
Enjoy the hot transmission tunnel (and overheating engine) in summer and the creaks and groans that will soon develop in the floor too. Hopefully your floor won't crack like so many others have but then again you've probably welded plate where the body mounts sit to avoid that common issue from happening to your car. I would look at supporting the body at the cross-member in front of the fuel tank. Have a look where the body sits on the two rubber supports and make up a spacer to go in there or you will destroy your rear chassis/body mounts in no time; that is if you use it for offroad work. If it only drives on tar it will probably last a lot longer.
At he end of the day as long as you're happy with the result that's all that matters. I'd just like to hear if you're still happy with it in a couple of years.
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 6:54 am
by MyGQ
Did a 2" lift in my old Maverick,
Never had a single issue with cracks, creaks, groans or nothing, went in without a problem, i just got longer brake lines for mine, simple and didn't require any stretching of the coiled lines. which was a big plus
was very happy with it, it allowed me to clear 35" with a 2" suspension lift,
Thinking of a 2" body lift in my currant setup which already has 7" suspension lift.