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ARB air lockers
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:47 am
by Barno111
With the arb air locker i have heard about oil from the diff leaking back up the lines and into the compress. Has anyone had any drama with this? And anything i should be made aware of with these lockers pros and cons? Anything to do with fitting through to the procedure to engaging them and disengaging them. Any problems with them i want to know what they are and how you have overcome that problem!
Cheers Barno
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:57 pm
by v8zuki
im first
2nd
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:20 pm
by stormpatrol
2nd,, I have ripped a couple of rear air lines off , fitted h/d upgrade now all ok , did have to replace the rear seal once was leakin air into diff housing also fitted upgrade box section o rings,, as for the front one no probs at all
no oil in cab ever they work when you want them to that suits me fine...
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:56 pm
by Matt_85Lux
haven't had any dramas with mine to date, best mod i have done on the lux so far
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:17 am
by grimbo
and who have you heard this from? A few of the many many thousands that have been installed without any dramas.
I've heard that some Landcruisers are lemons, all sort sof problems with build quality and cracked chassis. I've heard some LCD TVs get these really bad picture quality etc etc
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:27 am
by alien
think about the length of the air line from the diff to the compressor - that'd be almost 1L of oil to suck up before it got to the compressor =) haha
plus, the only time its going to "suck" oil out would be expansion/compression between hitting hot water with cold diffs...
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:26 pm
by Rhysta
My rear patrol locker is doing it.
I know another patrol that did it.
And 2 x landcruisers.
The rings in them start leaking and oil returns up the line when you switch the locker off.
Sure there are allot more people out there who have had it happen to them.
Seems as though you need a regular ring seal instead of the x seals that the locker uses from factory. That fixed the problem for my mate.. Yet to do it to my rear yet.
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:08 pm
by Ruffy
Another rocking horse thread..... Good, reliable, educated opinions are as rare as rocking horse shit....
Oil blowing back up an arb air locker hose is as common as rocking horse handles!
Yes they do have a tendancy for the seal housing o'ring to seep oil through to the airline. In turn, every time you disengage the locker this oil is forced up the airline and eventually makes its way to the solenoid on the compressor...
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:48 pm
by nottie
alien wrote: that'd be almost 1L of oil to suck up .
You got to be kidding
Allmost 1 litre of oil!!! No way on earth would the air line contain that.
Is this issue a problem with not having the locker installed properly???
I have never had this problem at all.
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:17 pm
by lump_a_charcoal
Maybe if you run the compressor backwards
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:16 pm
by turps
Ruffy wrote:
Yes they do have a tendancy for the seal housing o'ring to seep oil through to the airline. In turn, every time you disengage the locker this oil is forced up the airline and eventually makes its way to the solenoid on the compressor...
Mine used to do that. Only annoyed me every now and then. Didnt seem to effect its operation. My compressor was mounted under the drivers seat so used to just dump the oil onto the carpet.
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:57 pm
by money_killer
its all in the installation. and pretty sure the problems wth the internals have been fixed
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:51 pm
by dumbdunce
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:56 pm
by joeblow
once again...another educated thread. what internal issues? out of well over 100 lockers i have fitted in my time building custom diffs i think i have had four or five issues. out of those one was a manufacture fault (pinhole in the brazing on the seal housing) which was picked up before the diff went in and a replacement sourced easily. the others were my fault and very quickly rectified, once again usually before the diff went in. and as far as i know none of my customers have oil comming up the air lines. i may have a slight residue due to oil used in the istallation and lubrication of o-ring as they go in, but this will be minimal and will go away after a few engagements, and any cab mounted comp should be vented externaly. read the other thread about a proper install and it might give some people a better idea.
oil
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:50 pm
by DR Frankenstine
My mates hilux used to drip diff oil out of the solenoids. front and rear
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:49 pm
by Coogs
My front one does it.
But the rear is ok....
i have had the front one out and fully dismantled and rebuilt with all new seals.
It still pumps oil.
Not much oil but just enough to annoy me.
A guy told me that my extended diff breathers may be blocked/restrictive which may be causing it ?????????????????????
Just another mystery....
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:07 pm
by dumbdunce
Coogs wrote:My front one does it.
But the rear is ok....
i have had the front one out and fully dismantled and rebuilt with all new seals.
It still pumps oil.
Not much oil but just enough to annoy me.
A guy told me that my extended diff breathers may be blocked/restrictive which may be causing it ?????????????????????
Just another mystery....
read
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic48052.php
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:25 pm
by Matt_85Lux
If your breathers are blocked then yes there will be a bit of oil coming back up the air line when disengaged as it is the easiest path for the built up pressure to travel
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:29 am
by RUSSMUSS
my rear locker started to leak to the extent the compressor kicked in every 10 seconds or so, but it only ever had a slight residue at the compressor i pulled it out and found dirt under a seal. but that was my own fault for not cleaning it out properly after my line broke a couple of months ago. they are a get item and reliable
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:28 am
by berad
The thread title arb air locker should be banned.
As was said above one in 100-1000 does not count to the locker being designed poorly, most of the time it is the installers fault, mine sometimes has a slight oily residue at the solenoid but is far from being a drop/and or trail of oiil.
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:44 pm
by danssurf82
i also have oil comin out of my solenoid. never really bothered me, its no compromise for a reliable locker, always works when you want it, not like those stupid lockrite shit
hey
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:31 pm
by DR Frankenstine
danssurf82 wrote:i also have oil comin out of my solenoid. never really bothered me, its no compromise for a reliable locker, always works when you want it, not like those stupid lockrite shit
Have you ever had a lockright. Ive had two didnt like it in the front but in the back was ok. You should watch your language on here kids use it to
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:35 pm
by lump_a_charcoal
I just took my lockright out, I agree, they are shit.
I reckon better to save extra and get an airlocker than an autolocker anyday.
Re: hey
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:44 pm
by dat383
DR Frankenstine wrote: You should watch your language on here kids use it to
When did shit become a swear word?
Re: hey
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:39 pm
by blade 929
dat383 wrote:DR Frankenstine wrote: You should watch your language on here kids use it to
When did shit become a swear word?
has been ever since i can remember
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:41 pm
by dat383
That's pretty shitty.
Oh shit,said it again.
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:51 pm
by lump_a_charcoal
Ok guys, you have to cut this shit out...
There could be parents out there who are failing their children by letting them use the internets unsupervised, so we all have to curb our behaviour to protect them, rather than the parents do their job.
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:22 pm
by money_killer
lump_a_charcoal wrote:Ok guys, you have to cut this shit out...
There could be parents out there who are failing their children by letting them use the internets unsupervised, so we all have to curb our behaviour to protect them, rather than the parents do their job.
wtf??
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 5:42 pm
by lump_a_charcoal
money_killer wrote:lump_a_charcoal wrote:Ok guys, you have to cut this shit out...
There could be parents out there who are failing their children by letting them use the internets unsupervised, so we all have to curb our behaviour to protect them, rather than the parents do their job.
wtf??
Sorry, just ranting at the dude who told us not to swear...
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:14 pm
by blade 929
lump_a_charcoal wrote:money_killer wrote:lump_a_charcoal wrote:Ok guys, you have to cut this shit out...
There could be parents out there who are failing their children by letting them use the internets unsupervised, so we all have to curb our behaviour to protect them, rather than the parents do their job.
wtf??
Sorry, just ranting at the dude who told us not to swear...
its called respect
obviously something your parents failed to teach you , and its the internet not the internets , spelling another thing your parents failed with you
