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Welding Gas Mixer

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:10 pm
by Harb
I am looking for a Welding shielding gas mixer.....

I want to mix Argon and Helium to get the surface temp up when using my TIG on Aluminum
My new TIG is 360 amps, but I want to increase the surface temp without increasing the current and blowing things in half :lol:

Its done a fair bit in the states, but all the welding shops around here look at me funny when I ask, and just suggest I get a custom mix in the bottles, but I want to dial it in to perfection myself

Its basically a box with 2 inlets,1 outlet, a mixing chamber and a couple of knobs to set the various ratio's of mix...... sounds simple enough, but in practice its a tricky thing to do with out the right box.

so, anyone know where I can buy a welding gas mixer ?

Harb

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:53 pm
by Z()LTAN
We do this at work, i just plumbed the 2 regs together into a y pipe with one way check valves up stream of the ypipe.

The pressure settings on the regs will give you your mix.

Good luck

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:08 am
by Harb
This is the baby I am after.....

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There is a dealer in Sydney somewhere, but the dealer locator in the US isn't working and they have yet to amswer my Emails.....

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:35 am
by Z()LTAN
o thats a flash 1


How perfect do you need these welds but?

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:08 am
by Harb
probably not that perfect mate, but I just like to play around and get the max out of things.... half the fun is maxing out I recon hahaha

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:50 am
by Wozza244
Z()LTAN wrote:We do this at work, i just plumbed the 2 regs together into a y pipe with one way check valves up stream of the ypipe.

The pressure settings on the regs will give you your mix.

Good luck
Copy that!!!

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:29 pm
by awill4x4
Certainly not a cheap option, when I googled "Smith gas mixer" it gave me this link http://store.cyberweld.com/smithgasmixers.html but at USA $1300+ then you have to get it here pay imports and GST.
Regards Andrew.

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:00 pm
by AFeral
I asked Boc in Kawan the othe day, They had some pre mixed helium-argon. He did say that boc were fazing out keeping them in stock and would be by order only soon.

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:07 pm
by awill4x4
Straight Helium does make a hell of difference in AC welding, in one instance on heavier sections I was using about 70amps less using Helium compared to Argon. This difference was enough so that the amperage wasn't overloading the Tungsten and spitting it across the arc.
The trade off apart from the horrendous price of Helium was poorer arc starting and with Helium being lighter than air positional welding can be a compromise.
Regards Andrew.