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cams rollcages, backstays in utes...
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:32 am
by Mousie
hey i was just wondering what you do about having backstays for the internal cage when you have a ute cab and run backstays in accordence with cams
because i dont think a external hoop with backstays outside the cab counts with cams but it dose with ccda ?
can anyone enlighten me on this ?
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:04 pm
by Weiner
Pretty sure as per CCDA regs you can have a 4-point in the cab, and 4-point on the tray.
Jump onto the CCDA site and see, they have examples on how you can do it in their rulebook.
http://www.ccda4wd.com.au/images/CCDAFW ... ion9.0.pdf
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Re: cams rollcages, backstays in utes...
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:14 pm
by KYSI
Mousie wrote:hey i was just wondering what you do about having backstays for the internal cage when you have a ute cab and run backstays in accordence with cams
because i dont think a external hoop with backstays outside the cab counts with cams but it dose with ccda ?
can anyone enlighten me on this ?
you can have a hoop on tray but it must join onto the internal cage with bushes, the way they sugested i do it was just run stays down to the chassis joined onto the internal cage with bushes
Re: cams rollcages, backstays in utes...
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:32 pm
by Weiner
KYSI wrote:Mousie wrote:hey i was just wondering what you do about having backstays for the internal cage when you have a ute cab and run backstays in accordence with cams
because i dont think a external hoop with backstays outside the cab counts with cams but it dose with ccda ?
can anyone enlighten me on this ?
you can have a hoop on tray but it must join onto the internal cage with bushes, the way they sugested i do it was just run stays down to the chassis joined onto the internal cage with bushes
Says in to rulebook you can either join it using a flexible joint of have 2 separate cages can be used.
Re: cams rollcages, backstays in utes...
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:35 pm
by KYSI
Weiner wrote:KYSI wrote:Mousie wrote:hey i was just wondering what you do about having backstays for the internal cage when you have a ute cab and run backstays in accordence with cams
because i dont think a external hoop with backstays outside the cab counts with cams but it dose with ccda ?
can anyone enlighten me on this ?
you can have a hoop on tray but it must join onto the internal cage with bushes, the way they sugested i do it was just run stays down to the chassis joined onto the internal cage with bushes
Says in to rulebook you can either join it using a flexible joint of have 2 separate cages can be used.
Sorry i was talking about CAMS rules, CCDA is alot less strict
Re: cams rollcages, backstays in utes...
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:15 pm
by Mousie
Weiner wrote:KYSI wrote:Mousie wrote:hey i was just wondering what you do about having backstays for the internal cage when you have a ute cab and run backstays in accordence with cams
because i dont think a external hoop with backstays outside the cab counts with cams but it dose with ccda ?
can anyone enlighten me on this ?
you can have a hoop on tray but it must join onto the internal cage with bushes, the way they sugested i do it was just run stays down to the chassis joined onto the internal cage with bushes
Says in to rulebook you can either join it using a flexible joint of have 2 separate cages can be used.
but can you do this in accordence with cams i dont think you can?
i need to comply to cams as i want to enter other evens that are governd by cams such as the fink...
Re: cams rollcages, backstays in utes...
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:17 pm
by KYSI
Mousie wrote:Weiner wrote:KYSI wrote:Mousie wrote:hey i was just wondering what you do about having backstays for the internal cage when you have a ute cab and run backstays in accordence with cams
because i dont think a external hoop with backstays outside the cab counts with cams but it dose with ccda ?
can anyone enlighten me on this ?
you can have a hoop on tray but it must join onto the internal cage with bushes, the way they sugested i do it was just run stays down to the chassis joined onto the internal cage with bushes
Says in to rulebook you can either join it using a flexible joint of have 2 separate cages can be used.
but can you do this in accordence with cams i dont think you can?
i need to comply to cams as i want to enter other evens that are governd by cams such as the fink...
No the 2 seperate cages is CCDA spec not CAMS
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:38 am
by OL GQ UTE
ccda website:
5.6.1 CAB CHASSIS VEHICLES
Due to space considerations in the cabin of cab chassis vehicles either a flexible joint shall be
used through rear of cab bulkhead or two separate roll cages shall be constructed.
The main rollbar in the cabin shall be within 150mm of the occupants’ heads but shall not
overhang the occupants. If there is insufficient room within the cabin the two diagonal cross braces
may be within the main roll bar to the rear of the cab.
im trying to decide what sort of cage i want too, need as much space inside as i can get....GQ single cab
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:47 pm
by KYSI
im picking my truck up from PGS tomoro i will post some pics of my cage, the ,main hoop and taxi bar is on the tray, the bars running up the pillar run out the through the roof and join onto the tray hoop with bushes. and my harnesses run through a perspex back window and mount onto the taxi bar on the tray.
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:55 pm
by Mousie
but your not allowed to have a perspex windo on the road it has to be laminex shatter proof stuff....
but yes pics would be appricated
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:16 pm
by macca81
Mousie wrote:but your not allowed to have a perspex windscreen on the road it has to be laminex shatter proof stuff....
but yes pics would be appricated
fixed, rear window is fine
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:21 am
by Mousie
engineer here told me your not at all because it has to meet the australian standard and have the marking on it for windscreens and perspex dose not....? anyway getting of track
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:26 pm
by KYSI
Mousie wrote:engineer here told me your not at all because it has to meet the australian standard and have the marking on it for windscreens and perspex dose not....? anyway getting of track
My truck is only getting raced so perspex is fine
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:00 pm
by OL GQ UTE
KYSI...did you pick it up today? how bout some pics?
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:41 pm
by 80's_delirious
KYSI wrote:Mousie wrote:engineer here told me your not at all because it has to meet the australian standard and have the marking on it for windscreens and perspex dose not....? anyway getting of track
My truck is only getting raced so perspex is fine
I'm surprised perspex is allowed, as it can shatter into dangerous peices. Lexan is used in drag racing as it does not shatter. As far as I know not legal for road use though
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:53 pm
by Mousie
kysi how about some pics ???
thats if u got your truck?
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:05 pm
by KYSI
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:39 am
by Mousie
now what regs dose that comply to?
cams or ccda?
because i like that and if it would meet cams regs i would do somthing verry similar
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:43 pm
by Mousie
rang cams office now and it dosnt comply but i supose that dosnt matter for you they said to me the hoop must be 150mm from the occupants head AND the backstays must be connected directly to the hoop with a 30 degreen angle back...
witch means i have to work out how to do this ..........
