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High kms on a cruiser - now with pics!

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:01 pm
by tez
Hi everyone,

There is a 100 series I might be inspecting in the coming week which will be going cheaply. Its got the 1FZ-FE engine and the car is generally in ordinary condition. It also has 300,000kms on it with no service history (own servicing). What are these engines like? I know it does depend on the history, although if I can get it for a good price, I can also factor in a engine / transmission change in the future if it decides to give up.

Currently got a older Hilux which Ive spend too much money on already :) although the cruiser would be a nice tourer and good off road too.

So, question is, steer clear or bu at the right price? Or keep the old leaf sprung Hilux :)

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:17 pm
by mhgill
Ifz will do a few kays, but it will be getting tired by now, engines aren't to dear second hand for a low kay one, If you could get it cheap <10k then its proabably worth it.

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:44 pm
by v8zuki
all that mainly goes wrong is the valves reccess into the head closing up clearence and then burning out also corrosion in the cyl head can be a prob if the wrong coolant has been run
then you have clutchs and wheel bearings that wear out
but all in all very good cars just very thirsty
buy it and fit a1hdfte motor and you will love it
or if yo want to go fast fit the ls1/2 and yehah

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:25 pm
by tez
Body has some marks which require work and interior is a bit filthy. Its been used for some long distance trips a bit!

It will be under $10k and Im not looking at a engine conversion as I dont really want to put big $$$ into it, or else I'd just be better off forking out $20k+ for a decent one (which I would not get a cruiser anyhow).

Here are some pics I got of the underneath of the said cruiser. Doesnt look too pretty. Looks as though its done a bit of dirt driving?

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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:23 pm
by BrettInUte
Ive got mates who use landcruisers as tractors.
They get 500,000 + kms out of em.
But are regulary serviced.
They spend 80% of their time off tar.
They get a HARD life.

As long as the body isnt rusty, and their is nothing majory wrong (bent chassis/ diffs / dying motor/ or gearbox)

Id chance it.

Be prepared to do a lot of fixing minor consumables (wheel bearings, seals, bushes etc)
If your handy with the tools - you will do OK.
If you have to pay someone to fixx 100 minor things - better off to buy a better rig.

Cheers.

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:32 pm
by bogged
to me the fact the bloke doesnt even seem to have washed it to sell it could be an idea of how its been treated all its life.

the fact that its been on dirt roads isnt a big issue for me. But you arent paying top condition prices, so expect to have to dish out cash on things on it fairly shortly.

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:11 pm
by tez
Yeah I can do my own servicing and things like changing shocks etc like that. Engine coversions and such I would need to pay someone as I just dont have the space to do it, or else I'd be doing that myself too.

Yeah I understand the suspension and other items will need attention as it looks all original, although I would expect to change this even if the car had done 150,000km.

Will be checking it out on the weekend and as long as its not making any horrible noises, I'll go ahead with it.

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:44 pm
by Mark2
80 Series had a few places where the bodies commonly cracked with extensive dirt road use, not sure about the 100's but body cracks are likely on most vehicles which have done a lot of km on corrugations.

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:05 am
by SCANAS
sounds like you'd just be repeating the expensive process you have probably been through with the hilux. Save your dollars and buy a good clean truck, but as previously mentioned around the 10k mark your probably doing ok depending on condition.

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:52 am
by tez
Doing the mods and changes I dont mind as I treat it as like a expensive hobby. I like the way the Hilux is currently setup, although a Cruiser would be better on the road.

I will probably be really only looking at paying around $7k for it as I think thats all its worth as is with the high kms too. For $10k, I'll be keeping my Hilux.

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:53 pm
by SCANAS
At 7k you would be laughing all the way to the engine coversion shop! A super clean 96-97 80 series with 300k would sell for that. Bargain!

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:16 pm
by chimpboy
If it's cheap enough, it's cheap enough. But fwiw if it's filthy then "own servicing" is a crock of shiat; it hasn't been looked after at all.

Remember it's not just engines that age.

But sure, if you get it at the right price who cares?

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:50 pm
by crunk81us
I dont think it has had much (if any beach work) It looks more like red dirt not rust. I would suspect either an ex mining vehicle or one done many outback trips. But for 7k damn i'll have 2 thanks!

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:08 pm
by tez
Thanks I'll check it out and if it runs and drives ok I'll pick it up and take some pics of it.

I dont believe its a ex mine because its a GXL and not a poverty pack model with vinyl flooring. It needs work and thats why its cheap. Body work, and possibly mechanical.

Hilux for sale :D

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:00 am
by thehanko
A mate with the same truck has a few things worn out already which suprised me as its only done 150k's. gear box is shit and that kind of thing.

still an awsome truck and at 7k i would do it as a clean one would be what? 16?? so tidy it up do all your bushes bearing etc should be nicer than the lux.

hell my lux has now done over 300 and the ks dont really worry me.

but get ready to empty your wallet into the fuel tank. seriously thirsty, it will cost 2-2.5 times to run than what your lux does. and if you flog it then more.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:37 pm
by tez
Yeah clean one anywhere from $16-$20k.

The lux is good, although the cruiser would be nicer on longer drives. The lux, being a commercial vehicle can be a bit of a pain as a daily.

The km arent of a big concern because of the price Im looking at paying. As long as it doesnt have any major mechanical problems, i'll be happy with it.

Its also on lpg so it will make the fuel bills alot easier.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:46 pm
by tez
Checked it out today and the jury is out on this one :)

Drives ok, blows a little smoke on idle and the gearbox either needs a service or is getting tired (gear changes not super smooth). Will need minor things done like some tyres and a new windscreen.

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:19 pm
by tez
Could resist a bargain. Here are the pics

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What oil should I use? A semi synthetic or just mineral due to the kms?
Also has a sunroof and leather too! although the leather on the steering wheel and driver seat is quite worn

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:06 pm
by nabstud
How much $$$?

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:42 pm
by tez
Paid $7k for it

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:38 pm
by nabstud
Nice buy. I thought the $7k was only am estimate.