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EAS to spring conversion in Range Rover P38

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:45 am
by reggie_001
I am having a lot of problems with my Range Rover EAS (Electronic Air Suspension) and am wondering if anybody knows if anyone offers a conversion that gets rid of the EAS and just puts springs in instead.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:14 am
by Petes
Kits are available, but only links I can find are UK based.

http://www.brookwell.co.uk/item/4935/ra ... ersion-kit

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:10 am
by chimpboy
What problems do you have?

Virtually anything on the EAS is easy to fix once you have gotten your head around how it works. I would virtually guarantee that you can fix it for less than replacing it and continue to enjoy the benefits.

A twenty dollar cable and five minutes of soldering gets you full access to the EAS computer with a laptop, which lets you reset any faults. Other than that the main issue is almost always just leaks in the system, or a failed compressor which is usually reparable.

Have you been to http://rangerovers.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=3 and talked through the issues there?

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:32 am
by 91rangie
Go here http://www.rswsolutions.com/index_easunlock.htm
You can download software and diagrams to build a cable to check the system your self with a laptop.

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:35 am
by chimpboy
91rangie wrote:Go here http://www.rswsolutions.com/index_easunlock.htm
You can download software and diagrams to build a cable to check the system your self with a laptop.
Yep, I did this and it works perfectly made at minimum cost from a couple of bits bought on ebay.

But... there are also things that can go wrong that you can't fix just with software. I bought an overhaul kit for the valve block and some Gen III air springs as well. Worst case you need a new valve block and/or compressor, either way it's not that costly. If you need new air springs, well, you can need new springs with any kind of suspension.

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:52 am
by 91rangie
chimpboy wrote:
91rangie wrote:Go here http://www.rswsolutions.com/index_easunlock.htm
You can download software and diagrams to build a cable to check the system your self with a laptop.
Yep, I did this and it works perfectly made at minimum cost from a couple of bits bought on ebay.

But... there are also things that can go wrong that you can't fix just with software. I bought an overhaul kit for the valve block and some Gen III air springs as well. Worst case you need a new valve block and/or compressor, either way it's not that costly. If you need new air springs, well, you can need new springs with any kind of suspension.
If it is the valve block they can be overhauled with new o-rings

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:22 pm
by jbell
I got my kit from Arnott [spelling] in the U.S. very helpful &
good service & cheaper than you can get a kit here for !!
They do extended air bags too, for more lift..

Jeff

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:04 pm
by reggie_001
Thanks for the info guys. I have had a look at those websites and I will give the self diagnosis with the laptop a go. At the moment it is with land rover and they will tell me what the problem is.
Sorry not to have posted what the problem was previously, but basically for a while I either had it raised all the way up or all the way down (without me doing anything to the suspension level controls). For the last couple of days it has been on its bump stops and the dash is lit up like a christmas tree and it also telling me not to go over 55km/hr.

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:42 pm
by chimpboy
reggie_001 wrote:Thanks for the info guys. I have had a look at those websites and I will give the self diagnosis with the laptop a go. At the moment it is with land rover and they will tell me what the problem is.
Sorry not to have posted what the problem was previously, but basically for a while I either had it raised all the way up or all the way down (without me doing anything to the suspension level controls). For the last couple of days it has been on its bump stops and the dash is lit up like a christmas tree and it also telling me not to go over 55km/hr.
The 55kmh thing means it has gone into hard fault mode, which basically needs the computer plugged into diagnostics to reset it. Don't let them slug you heaps for this as it is just a case of plugging it into their computer and reading the fault codes. You could reset this yourself with the cable and free software mentioned above.

Hard fault mode happens when the EAS computer senses that the springs are way off where they should be. So does the riding at extended height with all four EAS positions lit on the EAS switch. 99.9% likely you just have a leak somewhere, or possibly a problem with your valve block. I bet it can be fixed for less money than a coil conversion.

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:52 pm
by boggerbrad37
Ritter Automotive sell a complete kit,They are in Melbourne. 0398343500

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:07 pm
by Holden Guy
I have just replaced the EAS with coils and Old Man Emu shocks. Best thing I have done. I had the converstion done by British Off Road near Nambour. I immediately drove it 3000 km on a holiday and I felt that the ride was as good if not better than air bags. Best of all...no more EAS problems and expense.

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:47 pm
by V8 Rangie
Holden Guy wrote:I have just replaced the EAS with coils and Old Man Emu shocks. Best thing I have done. I had the converstion done by British Off Road near Nambour. I immediately drove it 3000 km on a holiday and I felt that the ride was as good if not better than air bags. Best of all...no more EAS problems and expense.
How much was the conversion? does it need a mod plate?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:32 pm
by Holden Guy
Cost was $2200 with a further $600 for the shocks. The shocks were $125 each but I had them fitted whilst I was away on holidays at ARB in Tamworth. No mod plates were needed in Qld. Sadly, I recently replaced the valve block and compressor so that was a waste of maney!!!

Re: EAS to spring conversion in Range Rover P38

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:53 am
by reggie_001
12 months on and I'm having EAS problems again!!!!!! Cost so far at Garage is about $2000 (diagnose, replace compressor and some other parts). Anyhow have been told that I also need to change all 4 airbags so am again considering changing to springs as mentioned on this thread previously. Are there any problems with insurance (only thinking of this because none of these RR models come from the factory with springs and so changing to springs might cause a problem). Also, how do the kits overcome EAS faults coming up on the dash once the EAS is removed? Ie is there some sort of mod to the EAS plug that needs to be done so that the computer is "fooled" into thinking it still has the EAS connected?
Thanks in advance.