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Weird Death Wobbles?

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:34 pm
by Dyls GQ
I Have The Death Wobbles At The Moment. The Panhard Bushes In The Front Were Slighty Flogged Out So I Replaced Them Anyway. It Still Did It After I Replaced Them.

Today I Changed My Simex's Over To My Brother Kreepy Krawlies And Problem Gone, I Cant Figure It Out.

Its A GQ Patrol, 5"lift, Superior Flex Arm, Stocks Rear Arms, Adjustable Panhards

The Simex's And The Maxxis Are Both 35/12.5/15 On 10" Rims

-Wheel Bearings Were A Little Bit Loose But I Honestly Dont Think That This Would Affect It As Bad As This

- One Of The Rear Tires Is Slightly Out Of Balance (simex)


Panhard Bushes And Panhard Nuts, Including Locking Nuts Are Tight and Have Been Ruled Out So Any Ideas Would Be Helpfull.

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:44 pm
by 80lsy gq
so swapping your tyres fixed it????

i am failing to see the problem then..obviously your Simexes are out of balance

Wobble

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:47 pm
by Dyls GQ
Yes But Its A Pretty Crazy Wobble Like A Panhard Wobble... I Really Didnt Think An Out Of Balance Rear Tire Could Be Doing It

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:52 pm
by PJ.zook
Does the steering wheel slam from lock to lock uncontrollably?

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:54 pm
by Weiner
80lsy gq wrote:so swapping your tyres fixed it????

i am failing to see the problem then..obviously your Simexes are out of balance
Did it when the tyres were balanced 100% too ;)

Wobbles

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:56 pm
by Dyls GQ
Not Lock To Lock But Pretty Bad. 2nd Time Its Happend..Changed The Panhard Bushes Last Year And It Fixed It..Then Maybe 3 Weeks Ago It Started Again

Re: Wobble

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:58 pm
by 80lsy gq
Dyls GQ wrote:Yes But Its A Pretty Crazy Wobble Like A Panhard Wobble... I Really Didnt Think An Out Of Balance Rear Tire Could Be Doing It
not rear tyres...but out of balance front tyres will..

as will

worn panhard bushes
worn radius arm bushes(rear)
worn caster bushes
worn pretty much any bushes..

the GQ has a very fragile front end..i used to think mine didnt drive to bad..put new suspension in it the other day and redid all the bushes while i was at it..it now drives better than the missus commodore

one other thing how far have you driven it with it wobbling..were the Simex still cold..they develop flat spots when sitting and take a few kms to even out..my JTs used to do it for about 5 - 10 kms first thing in the morning after sitting all night

dave

Wobbles

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:03 pm
by Dyls GQ
All Radius Arm Bushes Are Brand Spankaz

Replaced Panhard Bushes About A Week Ago

Checked All Panhard Nuts Were Tight

I Know About The Simex's Needing To "Warm Up" This Is All The time

-Sorry I Should Have Mentioned Its Happening At The Usual 80km

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:16 pm
by 80lsy gq
did you try swapping the front tyres to the rear and vice versa with the Simex

if it disappears with the maxxis on then it has to be something to do with the Simex tyres/rims you would think..

dave

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:02 am
by alien
mud on the rims?

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:35 am
by rockcrawler31
i've had similar issues with simex's too. Great tire off road but refuse to be balanced. running the internal beadlocks probably didn't help either. I couldn't drive my simex's over 50k's without getting the death slaps, tried a set of creepies and no dramas. The simexs were using up to 400 grams of weights and still only barely in balance.

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:33 am
by Foo on patrol
Have you had them balanced on your 4by?This makes a big difference,as all the components come into play!

Wobbles

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:09 am
by Dyls GQ
As In On Car Balancing? Nah

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:34 am
by bru21
Nissans / jeeps do it.

Search death wobble.

My opinion its a little of everything and when the balance tips the last thing changed is blamed.

1# drop panhard mount at chassis to ensure draglink and panhard are parallel at ride height.

2# Fix all the little things