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need a couple of pics of ya home made or proffesionally made track bars fellas if you dont know what they are they are also called anti-diff wrap bars..(laymans terminoligy) lmao

Here's a couple pics of mine for ya.

ShortyMQ wrote:Here's a couple pics of mine for ya.

not a great deal of vertical seperation at the diff end, how does it work ?? and wheel hop wen u get on it ??

awesome keep em comin... how does the shackle at the front of the wrap bar work? woodnt it still wrap?

JAKE wrote:awesome keep em comin... how does the shackle at the front of the wrap bar work? woodnt it still wrap?

no the 2 points on the diff work against each other ( the top pulls and the bottom pushes, and coz the welded 2gether they stop it rapping) the shackle is there 2 allow back and forward movement 2 help reduce binding durin suspension cycling

heres two websight links that i have use for insperation in creating my trap bar

http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~jrice/cruiser/FJ40.html


http://www.4wheelingplus.com/torq.html

hypolux wrote:

ShortyMQ wrote:Here's a couple pics of mine for ya.

not a great deal of vertical seperation at the diff end, how does it work ?? and wheel hop wen u get on it ??

Seems to work ok. Only hops a bit when things get a bit nasty on the gas

ShortyMQ wrote:

hypolux wrote:

ShortyMQ wrote:Here's a couple pics of mine for ya.

not a great deal of vertical seperation at the diff end, how does it work ?? and wheel hop wen u get on it ??

Seems to work ok. Only hops a bit when things get a bit nasty on the gas

yeah coool how well does it climb the steep shit ??

any one here runnin the SUPERIOR ENGINEERING track bar?

hypolux wrote:

JAKE wrote:awesome keep em comin... how does the shackle at the front of the wrap bar work? woodnt it still wrap?

no the 2 points on the diff work against each other ( the top pulls and the bottom pushes, and coz the welded 2gether they stop it rapping) the shackle is there 2 allow back and forward movement 2 help reduce binding durin suspension cycling

Exactly

JAKE wrote:any one here runnin the SUPERIOR ENGINEERING track bar?

didnt know they made them ??

wot they look like ??

the best thing i have found is 2 get the top link sitting dead flat 2 the ground or slightly higher at the diff end, with as much as possible sereration betweent he diff mounts..

i notcied this wen i modded mine once b4, it used 2 sit dead flat and it worked real good but i had 2 lift the front end 35 mm and as soon a i lifted the front higher than the rear it started 2 hop wen climbin

hypolux wrote:

JAKE wrote:any one here runnin the SUPERIOR ENGINEERING track bar?

didnt know they made them ??

wot they look like ??

Just the usual ladder bar

hypolux wrote:
yeah coool how well does it climb the steep shit ??

Like a typical shorty- front wheels in the air

Has any body tried 2 or 3 single link bars instead of welding them together
say 1 on the top of the diff and 2 on either side lower down

Oh sh$t back to 4sum4 again forgot I was on old computer

here's a couple of a budget one I built when I did a springover on a HZJ75

the bottom bar and cross piece are from an old bundera banhard rod, solid steel, not tube. the top bar is a hilux tierod and the shackle end uses the hilux tierod end for flex and adjustability. it works pretty good, the bars have bent a little at the crossbrace but it still works fine. shackle has shock absorber eye bushes at the top end - the top eye of the shackle is a shocker eye. it does induce a little hop under hard throttle on steep climbs but nothing scary.

total cost was about six bucks for the steel for the bracket on the axle, a tierod and panhard rod I had lying around, about 2 hours, welding wire and gas.

Here is mine

The plating on the outside of the tube is a temporary fix. It was done to extend the trackbar when the wheelbase increased

here is how I did mine....

Eddy Welder, yours would have to be the best (by looking at) anti-wrap bar i have seen. What's it like performance-wise? Wheel hop? Any flex?

Nice work!! Looks shit hot!!!!

I notice your drive shaft isn't attached, had it wheeling since installing track bar?


Ben

hypolux wrote:the best thing i have found is 2 get the top link sitting dead flat 2 the ground or slightly higher at the diff end, with as much as possible sereration betweent he diff mounts..

i notcied this wen i modded mine once b4, it used 2 sit dead flat and it worked real good but i had 2 lift the front end 35 mm and as soon a i lifted the front higher than the rear it started 2 hop wen climbin

i found this with mine

depends what you have got to start with

i dont like the inverted shackle look, although it would solve the hop

Eddywelder wrote:here is how I did mine....

is that a bundera or a GQ leading arm? I almost went this way but thought there would be too much slop in the big fat axle end bushes.

also how is the shackle end mounted to the chassis? it looks like there could be some very high shear loads in the solid link coming down from the front - looks like it is loaded with a single shear/bending load. can we have another detailed pic of the chassis end?


nice work!


Brian

heres a pic of mine

dumbdunce wrote:

Eddywelder wrote:here is how I did mine....

is that a bundera or a GQ leading arm? I almost went this way but thought there would be too much slop in the big fat axle end bushes.

also how is the shackle end mounted to the chassis? it looks like there could be some very high shear loads in the solid link coming down from the front - looks like it is loaded with a single shear/bending load. can we have another detailed pic of the chassis end?


nice work!


Brian

From the pic id be leaning towards a Rover Arm, its not a nissan one im pretty sure

ozy1 wrote:
From the pic id be leaning towards a Rover Arm, its not a nissan one im pretty sure

ah yeah I didn't even think rangie, but that's probably it.

Excuse my ingorance, but if you dont ask, you'll never know. What does a track bar do exactly? Is it to prevent or limit the twisting of the diff under acceleration/decceleration?

from my knoledge which isnt much axel wrap, is when the diff tries to roll forwaards or backwards dramatically changing the pinion angle, this can cause shocks to snap, drive shafts to twist, bind and maybe evan break unis if bad enough, its more commonly assiciated with sprng over rigs

HeathGQ wrote:Excuse my ingorance, but if you dont ask, you'll never know. What does a track bar do exactly? Is it to prevent or limit the twisting of the diff under acceleration/decceleration?

that's pretty much it. saves breaking stuff like ozy says. allows you to run much softer springs (lesss leaves in the pack) for very compliant suspension.

planb wrote:

hypolux wrote:the best thing i have found is 2 get the top link sitting dead flat 2 the ground or slightly higher at the diff end, with as much as possible sereration betweent he diff mounts..

i notcied this wen i modded mine once b4, it used 2 sit dead flat and it worked real good but i had 2 lift the front end 35 mm and as soon a i lifted the front higher than the rear it started 2 hop wen climbin

i found this with mine

depends what you have got to start with

i dont like the inverted shackle look, although it would solve the hop

wot u mean the shckle facing up ??

didn't know if you wanted a trac bar but theres one for sale in the for sale thread

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=18321

it of a Lux but you could make it fit


REDDO