Outer Limits 4x4 Board

hey all
my car got written off on sunday arvo, and all my family thinks i should get a patrol or cruiser.
i love the vitara i have now and want to get another one but i want to know why have you guys chosen to get vitara's, sierra's, jimny's ect?

thanks

mitch

why buy a nissan or toyota?

i love my vit cheap to run bought it to have a cheap family car to go 4x4 ing in still got it as my play car but i have a 100 series cruiser now too ha ha

Granted early model Suzuki 4x4's have the equivilant of a zero NCAP rating, but theyre cheap and easy to mod, and are definately a great bang for youre buck.
If sierra motor blows, i can just pick up another for $100, same with gbox or transfer. Blow a motor, gearbox, transfer, whatever in a cruiser or patrol, and youre usually up for thousands.

I replaced my GQ Patrol with a Sierra because of how much it cost to run. Also, Suzuki's are cheap to fix and considerably cheaper to modify, and as an added bonus, I consistently find that my midly modified Sierra embaresses owner of much larger modified Crusiers and Patrols.

its the age old story of offroad capability vs. comfort....

the more comfortable a zuk is the less it will perform offroad/more it will need modifying to be better offroad.

thats a general guide anyway.

so sierra > jimny > vitara generally.

Mine is almost purely used off road only so comfort is not an issue. As a tourer a sierra/ Vit/ Jim would not be very good. (space issues).

Off road a (sierra) has a great approach, departure, ramp over angle. They are light and simple and as others said, cheap.


This video shows a v8 locked f+R 40, v8 Rangie (locked F+R) and zook 1.3 (locked rear) make it through the bog, while others were denied by the dimensions of their cars.

Although that being said they do have negatives as well. i.e. Wheel base causing an unstable rig if not driven sensibly.
Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usxRr4SLjxY

My playground is sand, and with a 5" total lift, some engine performance mods, 31" baja claws, my sierra will go in two wheel drive, where others cannot go in 4wd.

Amazing to see the faces of people in "proppa" 4wds bogged to the diffs, and this little ugly suzi rocks up and asks if they want a tow, they larf and say an whats that gunna do, so I get out and say, well, you are pretty bogged, I will put my free wheeling hubs in in case I need 4wd, the reactions on their faces, when they realize that im in 2wd, and they are bogged to the diffs, priceless

Suzis are very light, very cheap to mod, and fix if they break, and make a wonderful toy. Dunno about as a daily driver but.

Mines my DD and i love it... but you have to enjoy driving and not be one of those sit back and let the car do it for you types... lol

that yellow/gold shorty makes a lot of noises with the suspension

Not really, Well not that I heard. Although his rear shackle was rubbing on the springs on compression.

unless u hav patrol syndrome y would u buy one????

zook chick wrote:unless u hav patrol syndrome y would u buy one????

cause they're a shitload better than a landcruiser

They're very underrated. People think that the bigger the truck the better it will go. Not always!!!

My vitara embarrasses patrols, cruisers and luxs usually locked and lifted too! Granted mine has 5" of lift and its on 32s but still, for a completely unlocked ungeared rig which has cost me around 12k all up, it's pretty unbeatable!

Bog a patrol/cruiser in some soft stuff then drive a sierra/vitara straight past it. In soft stuff a zook is pretty much unbeatable I drive an 80 series an a sierra and in stock forms the zook will out drive it offroad. Not onroad tho the cruiser is alot comfier onroad.
Last weekend I went out fourbing with a mate and his SWB MQ. He has 32inch muddies and me 31's I have a difflock in the rear but no drive to the front so I was in 2wd and he has lsd rear and open front.
First boghole he got bogged straight away I drove straight through no worries because of the low weight of the zook and the huge amount of revs they will do compared to a slow heavy diesel.

fe11xx wrote:They're very underrated. People think that the bigger the truck the better it will go. Not always!!!

I've had/have both, and they both have their place.

Extra wheelbase is nice sometimes. I'm far happier on long trips in the patrol too.

hey all, thanks for the great response.
yeah im pretty set on anther vitara just trying to get comebacks for friends, who still thinks the bigger the better.

thanks, keep them coming
mitch

It's not size that matters its the way you use it

my qustions is y would u not want a suzuki =cheap, lots of parts, and fun

shandy wrote:hey all, thanks for the great response.
yeah im pretty set on anther vitara just trying to get comebacks for friends, who still thinks the bigger the better.

thanks, keep them coming
mitch

don't need a comeback. Just go 4wding with them and put them to shame.
I went out on the weekend, and was getting a razzing over the uhf about how the Suzuki is a girls car. Once we got out on the track on the very first rutted out section, all the Patrols,Landcruisers and Land Rovers were slipping, sliding, throwing tyres and on a couple of occasions almost saw a couple of rollovers. Then here I come in my near standard Sierra with 2"spring and bodylift, 31" tyres and low range transfer gears and I pottered nice and slowly up the hill and past all of them. Comment on the video footage was this guys making us all look stoopid. Needless to say, I was grinning

ive gone the 04 GV way with a 4inch lift and fly by them on road and still drive past them off road.

last drive out out riply i watched a few hiluxes struggle then back up so i drove it and kept going

Well i am a girl and i drive a Suzuki X90, as a DD and hard playing..
It is not real comfy as a DD, but it plays hard with all the Cruisers & Patrols in our club... The X90 is constantly surprising ppl of its capabilities and its grunt and it is still stock (about to grow though.. )... My partner plays with a cruiser and we find the difference in expenses etc. we are more going out to play in the X90 as it is so capable and we dont get embarrassed playing in it...

Go the Suzuki....

i have one as i can still go places during the wet season.

beacuse there awsome, mine shows toyotas, nissans and rangies up time and time again even pulled a few out of places i just drove through and it only cost 10 grand to buy and build

i have a sierra and a patrol shorty. everyone looks at the patrol and reckons its tops and reckons itd go anywhere as it runs a 4 inch lift and 35 claws. no one even takes note of the zook tucked away in the shed with 31s (halfway through a ute chop and with a blown motor) until i say na mav doesnt go no where near where the zook goes. gota love the zook. but when we go away my arse gets sore enough in a coil sprung patrol somedays and id be hateing life in the zook. just my oppinion.
cheers

I reckon its impossible to get bogged in the sand in a zook, but i just got a 100 series V8 for longer trips and some beach work and i got to say its a hell of a lot nicer to be in on longer trips than the zook. Bit scary driving such a big heavy car offroad tho

hey all
thanks heaps for the reply's
spent most of the weekend looking at cars, found a few nice ones, found a vitara which was really nice but it was really milky under the oil filler cap, so i just stopped looking.

can u guys have a look at this about coily sierras http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic182663.php
thanks
mitch

buy a vitara cause it will suprise people more than a sierra. and more comfy on road,

haha the big trucks with 35's+ at zig zags got shown up buy me and a mate.. we drove up a rutted out steep hill then through a mud pit at the top with no probs when it took them 20 min a truck and most of them ended up winching up...

hey
yeah i did have a vitara for 18 months, but then my car got written off i am trying to find another car. but very few swb vitara's around.
anybody know of any for sale?

thanks
Mitch

man come to sydney they are a dime a dozen...

best is pullin the mates with hilux's out on fraser island or stockton beach... haha im in 2wd in places they struggle in 4wd

also lowering your psi to 8 when the skyscrapers cant really go lower than 15 psi without beadlocks