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HID Headlight upgrade kits

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:02 pm
by nobbie
Hi guys,
I want some HID headlights for my 02 Patrol, just wondering roughly how much what brands to look for and where to get them.

Cheers.

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:01 pm
by Look'n 4 Mud
Hi mate, this is an easy question.

If you dont take my advice your a wally!!

Get on Ebay and type in "HID Kit" into the search engine

click on the cheapest and look around.

You will find sets for around $50au + about $45 postage out of Hong Kong... That is $95 or so for a full kit. This is exactly the same kit that Hobbsie or Bright Light Auto sells for $300.

I have bought at least 10 sets of these and had some that i bought at 7pm on Friday arrive out of Hong Kong by 10am Monday!! No Shit

You can not fake an Ebay feedback score. Dont worry that they are in HK if they have a 5000 feedback score. You are on a winner. That is where Hobbsie gets his. No Doubt.

If you want to run them in your nissan you need some Hi/Lo set ups and they will cost a little more but once you compare to a standard set you will know why they are a little more expensive.

I have Hi/Los in my GQ, converted my Light Force XGTs and run 4 sets on the roof.

They are a plug and play set. you will fit them to your headlights inside 20 minutes.No rocket science here.

Have fun and light up the night mate. :idea: :idea: :idea:

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:15 pm
by marin
hahahaha ebay scores mean nothing, just means that 5000 people have a HID setup that has warranty that cannot be backed up and may fail 1 week after they posted that ebay feedback. Support local, they have put in the effort to give you a product that they will back up.

Steve at on4tou is just 1 such person who I am happy to support. I would rather support the little local guys in their endeavors, as long as they are selling good stuff at reasonable prices and are willing to back up their product. This can't be said for some of these overseas sellers (But on the other hand, you will come across some overseas who are great to deal with, so don't write them off. Just be prepared to loose money on inferior products when you gamble with which of these sellers you choose.)

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:58 am
by dansharp
Not all local aussie stuff is good either mate. I have bought things doing the right thing supporting the little guy and it just turned out to be shit.

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:33 pm
by ORSM4B
hahahaha ebay scores mean nothing, just means that 5000 people have a HID setup that has warranty that cannot be backed up and may fail 1 week after they posted that ebay feedback. Support local, they have put in the effort to give you a product that they will back up
Well l buy mine from China and have had Hi/lo and 2 sets of H3's and my warrenty support is fantastic.....l have had after a year one of the H4's change color on me and have sent replacements already without me sending mine back yet.
Now l call that service...with no cost to me

Cheers Chris

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:16 pm
by ish
hey guys not knowing much about these hid kits/lights. can someone help me out, what do i need for a 99 gu, bulb size ect ?? may sound stupid, im no good with this search stuff.

thanks

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:30 pm
by bogged
Look'n 4 Mud wrote:You can not fake an Ebay feedback score.
wanna bet?

Send a PM to Jet-6

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:03 am
by on4tou
pm sent
steve

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:19 am
by Look'n 4 Mud
marin wrote:hahahaha ebay scores mean nothing, just means that 5000 people have a HID setup that has warranty that cannot be backed up and may fail 1 week after they posted that ebay feedback. Support local, they have put in the effort to give you a product that they will back up.
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Dont get me wrong, I support Local as much as i can, I have spent $4000 with shane from Suspension stuff and he is the Man mate, but we are NOT talking about buying an Australian Made HID Kit here. (does not exist)

It does not matter where you buy the kit from, the guy you bought it off got it off Ebay for a song or direct from the supplier that he found on ebay at an even better pirce for buying 50 kits. Lets not kid our selves here. I know cause i seriously have been thinking about going into business in HID kit because the Loyal Local Suppliers are ROBBING YOU!

What logic would there be to openly know that i can buy the exact set off Ebay landed on my door for $99 and then say "Nah gunna support local and pay $300+. all i am doing is lining the pocket of the guy that did buy it off ebay!!.

I will make a deal, I will buy the kit off ebay, I will charge you $250 (cheap for local supplier) and make $150 per kit.....

Please line up here =>

Sorry not being a smart arse, i have a heap of these sets, my friends have a heap of these sets. i know of not a single warranty problem ever.
Every kit you see advertised, regardless of the seller, regardless of the location of the seller, Retail, Wholesale, Internet.... They all got them from the same place. the only thing that may be different is the box they come in.

During my investigations to bring HID kit into Aust i considered the kit to buy based on who had the best packaging, Which box looks the most "Authentic" ?? authentic what??

Spend your cash, but dont be a charity and dont get ripped off. Why is it reasonable to more than triple the price??


"HID Kits" = 914 results on Ebay
wow price drop since i bought mine.

$75 to the door for 35 watts
$99 to the door for 50 watts

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:53 pm
by Auto-Craft
Like anything, there are differing levels of quality, even if the look the same.

I can buy HID's from the company I use for $100 inc GST, but they recommend I dont sell them, as they are the same as the H#&$A units, and arent very reliable.

He has other kits which are closer to $200, which look very similar, the ballasts come from the same factory, but different spec, the globes, same thing.

It will be interesting when you cant buy locally the reasonable product, like cv's at the moment, only the crap ones, as local stores dry up, and everything goes offshore.

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:30 am
by anzac
Well I worked out a way to get lightforce HID's for nearly half price.

a single 240 HID retails for $800.

A twin pack of the xenophot (or whatever it's called) 240's is $425

HID upgrade kits are $205 each. The lights themselves are identical.

so buy a twin pack and two HID upgrades and it's $835 plus you get to choose the kelvin rating of your globes.

Either way, you need to buy a wiring harness for $60 or make your own.

That's if you want local product support etc. If not, go knock yourself out buying anything off ebay. Even if the stuff dies after 6 months and you can't get warranty, you can buy another cheap set.

Anyone with a set of lightforce lights though should look into just spending the few hundred to upgrade.

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:58 pm
by ozhound
So whats the go with these things? 6000k I was told locally but the 10,000K look the goods in a photo, why not go more? Is globe popping an issue?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:23 pm
by turps
ozhound wrote:So whats the go with these things? 6000k I was told locally but the 10,000K look the goods in a photo, why not go more? Is globe popping an issue?
the higher the number the more blue/purple they go.
Normal Halogen is around 3000k. Nice white light starts around 4300k-6000k and after that gets abit blue. Actually anything after 5000k generally starts to put out less lumen's (light).
10,000k would be purple and put out less light than a halogen globe.

most of the ebay adds have a colour chart with output. Well they used to.

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:37 am
by ozhound
Thanks mate appreciate it, there was a chart on the site I found but it made the higher the number look like a 'bigger' light coming off the globe, wrong word for it but I dunno how else to put it. think i'll stick with a 5000k cheers.

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:32 am
by Auto-Craft
We find even though 4300k is rated as closest to natural daylight, that 6000k seems to work best for HID and the watts are more important to light output.

We have 35w - 55w - 75w -100w units available, in driving lights.

Dont confuse color with light output.

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:55 am
by turps
Assassin_Offroad wrote:We find even though 4300k is rated as closest to natural daylight, that 6000k seems to work best for HID and the watts are more important to light output.

We have 35w - 55w - 75w -100w units available, in driving lights.

Dont confuse color with light output.
But its still a important part of the decision. a 100w HID in 10,000k probably puts out less light than a 35w at 4300k.
As for whats nice I have had most colours from 4300k to 6000k. And all are heaps better to live with than std halogen globes.