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Cheer , Just looking for some advise from you Patrol owner. Is it harder to replace the clutch in a Patrol than in a Cruiser? If so, why is that as I am not familiar with working on a Patrol. Thank

the only bit that 'harder' is actually getting the getting the box out.
(the bell housing hit the floor) some will tell you it's easy and they can do it by them selves in 4 hour on the floor. I'm yet to see it happen that way.

access to all the bolts and what needs to come off isn't really much different.

brad-chevlux wrote:the only bit that 'harder' is actually getting the getting the box out.
(the bell housing hit the floor) some will tell you it's easy and they can do it by them selves in 4 hour on the floor. I'm yet to see it happen that way.

access to all the bolts and what needs to come off isn't really much different.

Thanx Brad, What about removing the box and then the bell houing after the box is out? Any eaier, thank again.

bolts for bellhousing to gear box are inside the bell housing.

you can remove transfer case first to make it easier. Unbolt bell housing from motor and turn the gearbox 90 degrees drivers side down. It will then just slide out.

BUT they are F###ing heavy.

nastytroll wrote:you can remove transfer case first to make it easier. Unbolt bell housing from motor and turn the gearbox 90 degrees drivers side down.. It will then just slide out

BUT they are F###ing heavy.

lol. slide right out.

In theiry :rofl:

nastytroll wrote:you can remove transfer case first to make it easier. Unbolt bell housing from motor and turn the gearbox 90 degrees drivers side down. It will then just slide out.

BUT they are F###ing heavy.

Thanx Nastytrol, the bloke want to replace the clutch and the gearbox is ok.
I told him how I use the motorbike jack to do my HJ75 and a mates HZJ75 and also the 80 series HDJ80 my son had but he think that wont work as the box need to be twited on the Nissan. The cruiser if you drop and support the back of the motor then the box just sit on the jack and you lower the jack as you move the jack backwards The utes are easy as they are not restricted by a long tranmision tunnel getting narrower especially if you run the front wheel up on some timber. I expect there is not much weight difference between the Nissan box and the Cruiser H55F and H150/H151 gearbox/tranfercase, Best regards

if u 'massage' your floor first , or have a body lift then you dont need to twist the box to get it out, it will slide right out , again, in theory

cooki_monsta wrote:if u 'massage' your floor first , or have a body lift then you dont need to twist the box to get it out, it will slide right out , again, in theory

agreed, just massage the floor a little right behind the starter motor bulb and try to remove the exhaust and it will just fall out. otherwise you have to tilt is and its f##king heavy.

Thanks all, I think you have talked him out of it. He will pay to get it done. Cheers

bigbrowndog wrote:Thanks all, I think you have talked him out of it. He will pay to get it done. Cheers

Best option yet

What model nissan are we discussing?

I considering do my MQ ( 5 speed LWB)

I've read heaps of threads on doing clutches in GQ boxes, and even though i've done my own clutches in 308 v8's with saginaw boxes by myself - well no way am I going to try and do my GQ clutch when it kicks the bucket. I've got a heavy duty clutch kit here and when the day comes the 4wd will be into Nissan to have it put in.
My first GQ did the clutch and it only took Nissan here in Christchurch about a day to do it. Alot of people reckon it's a PITA job!!!

its mainly a pita due to its weight and the fact that is has to be tilted about 90degrees to get it out. part from that its no different to any other 4wd box. oh and its probs heavier than a cruiser box.

nastytroll wrote:

bigbrowndog wrote:Thanks all, I think you have talked him out of it. He will pay to get it done. Cheers

Best option yet

Yer I like to do a lot of stuff myself but screw that, I was happy to pay someone else to suffer through replacing the clutch on my maverick.

chimpboy wrote:

nastytroll wrote:

bigbrowndog wrote:Thanks all, I think you have talked him out of it. He will pay to get it done. Cheers

Best option yet

Yer I like to do a lot of stuff myself but screw that, I was happy to pay someone else to suffer through replacing the clutch on my maverick.

Last one I did I pulled the motor instead

Cheer, His Patrol is an 88 wagon. The cruiser is easy, no twisting and no lifting if you use a motor bike jack. The utes are easy as there is no restrictions like the cruiser wagon the transmision tunnel restricts the backward movement. If I ever do a wagon again I will put the front wheels up on blocks. This wagon has 2 inch body and supenion lift and still stoped the jack from going back enough to be comfortable.

Thanks again for the heads up on the Nissan, much appreciated.

brad-chevlux wrote:the only bit that 'harder' is actually getting the getting the box out.
(the bell housing hit the floor) some will tell you it's easy and they can do it by them selves in 4 hour on the floor. I'm yet to see it happen that way.

access to all the bolts and what needs to come off isn't really much different.

5 1/2 hours drive in drive out with a change over fly wheel

heathhoppy wrote:

brad-chevlux wrote:the only bit that 'harder' is actually getting the getting the box out.
(the bell housing hit the floor) some will tell you it's easy and they can do it by them selves in 4 hour on the floor. I'm yet to see it happen that way .

access to all the bolts and what needs to come off isn't really much different.

5 1/2 hours drive in drive out with a change over fly wheel

thats nice dear

depends what model your talking , if you massage the floor on a gu the customer complains aboutt he footrest not feeling right.......... , if you loosen the engines mounts on the zd almost right off and jack the front of the motor up it comes out and in easily altho gravity always prevails....

I've also seen in threads on patrol forum that mechanics who massage the floor are dodgy useless dropkicks.

Now people on here are recommending to do it.

Work that one out.

exactly what i was thinking.. massage of the panels is best left to a panel beater correct

It is a hard job, no denying that. But my recommendation (if you intend to do it yourself), is to use an engine crane as well and undo the engine mounts and fan which allows the engine to come forward a few inches. Then you dont have to rotate the gearbox which is extremely hard to do.

i have done one in the drive way, no bashing required, just turning.