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opinions please?

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 5:51 pm
by SASS
Evening all,
i am looking around to replace my hilux and dont know what to buy.
Im after good power (the 2.4 hilux is a slug) Auto trans, coils not leaf, air and steer. This will be a weekend and play car but must be comfortable for long trips. wanting to spend around $10000 max on purchase price and do alot of the work on it my self. Any oppinions on what makes and models of rangies would suit and worth while mods please send me a post
Cheers
SASS

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 6:11 pm
by N*A*M
buy surfection's rangie and wheel it hard

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 6:33 pm
by GRIMACE
too late :lol: rear diff is MINE :D :armsup:

Re: opinions please?

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 9:25 pm
by RaginRover
SASS wrote:Evening all,
i am looking around to replace my hilux and dont know what to buy.
Im after good power (the 2.4 hilux is a slug) Auto trans, coils not leaf, air and steer. This will be a weekend and play car but must be comfortable for long trips. wanting to spend around $10000 max on purchase price and do alot of the work on it my self. Any oppinions on what makes and models of rangies would suit and worth while mods please send me a post
Cheers
SASS


Get a non abs rangie from the early 90s 3.9 EFI and the 4 speed auto
they are your best bet should be able to pick up a 1990 or 1991 for that money

Tom

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 9:32 pm
by GRIMACE
dont they have a Viscous Transfer :?:

Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 6:02 pm
by Aquarangie
Yes thay do, but it's worth the sacrifice for the 3.9 and later Hotwire injection system. Best off buying the latest Rangie you can afford.

Nothing on Rangies is impossible to do within reason.

Trav

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 9:09 am
by GRIMACE
Aquarangie wrote:Yes thay do, but it's worth the sacrifice for the 3.9 and later Hotwire injection system. Best off buying the latest Rangie you can afford.

Nothing on Rangies is impossible to do within reason.

Trav



Sorry to high jack the thread but I like learning abotu the stuff I have yet learnt when did this Hotwire injection come in and is it really that much better ? ? ?

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 9:20 am
by Strange Rover
If you are planning on wheeling it I wouldnt buy a rangie with a viscous transfer unless you were going to swap it out for a LT230 transfer (this one has the centre diff lock).

Sam

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 9:39 am
by GRIMACE
yeah thats what I was thinking as I have deffinately noticed the last few times out ormaeu that beside my front diff busting the transfer on steep uphill climbs seems to throw all/most the power to one front wheel leaving me stranded on some simple shit :?

On the flat and up the canyon it seems ok but fast uphill climbs are impossible :? stoopid viscous transfer :x

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 10:46 am
by Aquarangie
The Hotwire is only fitted to Rangies with 3.9, although all Discos released here were hotwire interestingly enough (including the 3.5 V8 models).

I would have to agree with Sam here on the viscous coupling, but I still wopuldn't let that deter you from buying a great example. It can be changed to a LT230 like mine has been.

Trav

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 11:19 am
by landy_man
i would definately consider a lt230 transplant after purchase.
the hot wire injection system is better than the old flapper type but still not great....nothing a wolf or haltech would not fix.

now if it was me....
i would buy an older model, the first efi's were very comfortable, fit a 4.6 with zf and lt230.....that would give you tons of power, nice auto, and a strong transfer......that can do front digs ;)

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 3:50 pm
by RaginRover
landy_man wrote:, fit a 4.6 with zf and lt230


nah you don;t want one of those they tend to fall to bits after a good cooking and a few Ks 4.0L much better options, or get a disco motor 140Kw should be plenty, put a 70 degree thermostat in it and it will go like a cut snake

TOm

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 3:56 pm
by landy_man
the only reason the 4.6 fell to bits was incorrect factory assembly....strectch bolts were used and the heads overtightened....
a new 4.6 block correctly assembled will go well

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 6:31 pm
by Britswed
If your intereted iam about to purchase a 91 Rangie with stuffed Viscous will be putting in a LT230,its 3.9ltr silver ARB rear bar,will be ready for Sale next month sometime :D

PM me of Ring me

Cheers Mal

Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 11:10 am
by RaginRover
landy_man wrote:the only reason the 4.6 fell to bits was incorrect factory assembly....strectch bolts were used and the heads overtightened....
a new 4.6 block correctly assembled will go well


I didn't mean yours I meant in general

Tom

Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 11:54 am
by ShinyDiscoBalls
I bet SASS is sorry he even asked.....

Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 5:14 pm
by Aquarangie
landy_man wrote:i would definately consider a lt230 transplant after purchase.
the hot wire injection system is better than the old flapper type but still not great....nothing a wolf or haltech would not fix.

now if it was me....
i would buy an older model, the first efi's were very comfortable, fit a 4.6 with zf and lt230.....that would give you tons of power, nice auto, and a strong transfer......that can do front digs ;)


I do agree that a aftermarket unit is the best way to go if your'e original LR set-up gives you the shits, but for the 3 1/2 yerars I have had my 92, it's been trouble free. Nothing lasts forebver though, so in the near future when problems start to present themselves, I would seriously consider upgrading to a Haltech, etc..

But at the moment, I'll stick with what I got and stay true to my philosiphy!!

Trav

Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 9:55 pm
by flat4
How about this:

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=17639

well under your budget.

Steve

Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 5:02 pm
by Rangee
hey Rangin Rover, why do you use the 70 deg thermostate ... seems rather cold, what is your fuel comsumption like ...

for the new guy i repowered my 87 highline with a new high compression 3.9 with 4.6 heads and a haltech e6x... and a whole hose to other bits ...
but i am interested in running it cooler ... i have an 88 deg with the twin thermos comming in just before then
cheers
Rangee

Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 6:47 pm
by RaginRover
Rangee wrote:hey Rangin Rover, why do you use the 70 deg thermostate ... seems rather cold, what is your fuel comsumption like ...

for the new guy i repowered my 87 highline with a new high compression 3.9 with 4.6 heads and a haltech e6x... and a whole hose to other bits ...
but i am interested in running it cooler ... i have an 88 deg with the twin thermos comming in just before then
cheers
Rangee


I don't but if you wanted it to go harder then 70 degree would be a cheap mod, fuel consumption would be woeful

Tom

Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 10:03 pm
by TUFFRANGIE
We have had a '92 Manual Rangie with a 4.7 from new, the viscous hasn't faultered. Never got bogged on easy slopes or anything like that-in fact quite the opposite-got way further up a slippery hill than my mate in his '88 rover 4.2 and he had the diff locks in (centre and rear maxi drive). Our tyres were both at's with the same tread left. Also have booted along many tracks up and dowhills always great-even went in Navrun and did allright (came 4th at Castelmaine) considering it is relatively stock.

O well I guess it is what you prefer