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60 diffs under middy are they wider ? and 2h in same thing

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:17 pm
by BeauGQ
hey just wondering will they bolt straight up and if they are wider ? cheers

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:23 pm
by RAY185
Middy is the same width as a 75 right? AFAIK 75 is pretty close to the width of a 40. 60 is about 3 inches wider than a 40 so yes they will be wider. The width is in the long side so they won't be a bolt in arrangement. You will have to cut and reposition either spring perches or hangers.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:17 pm
by tom_286
Ive just put a rear 60 diff in my middy, front housing is about 70% done and soon will also be in. You'll gain about 2" track each end and they wont bolt in. Like Ray said you'll need to either move the spring perches on the diff housing closer together (aprox 25mm) or move the spring hangers on your chassis out. Ive moved the perches on the diff housings.

The rear is easy, cut the old ones off and weld the new ones on in the right spots. Front gets a bit harder because the driver's side perch needs to sit well within the diff pumpkin. Theres enough room to cut away the pumpkin and fabricate a whole new mount, its's tight but doable, that's what Ive done.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:20 pm
by hulsty
60 rear into a middy is easy, 60 front into a middy is hard, and you have to cut out LOTS of metal to get it to work. Not a job for the fainthearted :twisted:

By far the easier option is to use hilux IFS hubs and spacer kit, gets the same width with less work. Increases scrub radius and bearing loads though.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:10 pm
by BeauGQ
wat about steering anyprobs there ? and has any 1 put 2h in one

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:16 pm
by tom_286
BeauGQ wrote:wat about steering anyprobs there ? and has any 1 put 2h in one
Havn't done the front yet and havnt given much throught to steering so far. Once the 60 diff is in there I'll sus it out but I'd imagine Ill need the steering arm from pitman arm to swivel housing 1" or so longer than a standard middy one.

Never seen a 2h in a middy but it cant be too hard as I think the 75 utes had a 2h in them in the eary days? My middy has a 1hz, fits in there good for the same reasion.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:19 pm
by BeauGQ
did the 1hz bolt straight in ?

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:31 pm
by tom_286
BeauGQ wrote:did the 1hz bolt straight in ?
Nope, engine is from an 80 series, gearbox and transfer are either 60 or 75 but not exactly sure what they are. Im pretty sure gear box cross member is standard but the engine mounts have been moved/modded. A 1hz 75 series dash was used so all the gauges match the new engine. Very hazey on the details sorry dad did the conversion a long time ago.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:33 pm
by BeauGQ
oh ok yeah i was told to put 2h in i have to move all the mounts