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"A" frame

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:06 pm
by suzukigav
Hey guys I was wondering if anyone had some pictures of "A" frame set-ups. I am trying to decide what design to go with. I am aware that suspension geometrys are difficult to caluculate, that's why I would like to see pictures of what works and what doesn't. Even if it's not an "A" frame I just need some ideas about arm lengths and mounting positions.. So any pictures will do. Thanks

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:40 pm
by BlueSuzy
Interested also :armsup:

Re: "A" frame

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:17 pm
by lay80n
suzukigav wrote:Hey guys I was wondering if anyone had some pictures of "A" frame set-ups. I am trying to decide what design to go with. I am aware that suspension geometrys are difficult to caluculate, that's why I would like to see pictures of what works and what doesn't. Even if it's not an "A" frame I just need some ideas about arm lengths and mounting positions.. So any pictures will do. Thanks

To calculate A-frame, just use the 4 link calculator but have the uppers converge at the point where the a-link joint is. Why A link instead of triangulated 4 link?

Layto....

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:19 pm
by suzukigav
Hey Layton I think I need your help. Lol

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:14 pm
by 31zook
Im not the king of linkages or anything but what i've seen A frames rear steer pretty mad, and a tri 4links are true track. this is petersons write up on it, it has all the info needed to figure it all out
http://www.muddtanks.com/4LinkSuspArticle.htm
and ths is an imperial 4link calc, i could never find a metric one...do'h
http://mysite.verizon.net/triaged/4link ... index.html

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:28 pm
by redzook
31zook wrote:Im not the king of linkages or anything but what i've seen A frames rear steer pretty mad, and a tri 4links are true track. this is petersons write up on it, it has all the info needed to figure it all out
http://www.muddtanks.com/4LinkSuspArticle.htm
and ths is an imperial 4link calc, i could never find a metric one...do'h
http://mysite.verizon.net/triaged/4link ... index.html
its all in the link setup "A" frames, 4 links ,3 link panhards can all be setup with zero steer if you know what you are doin

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:15 pm
by joeblow
redzook wrote:
31zook wrote:Im not the king of linkages or anything but what i've seen A frames rear steer pretty mad, and a tri 4links are true track. this is petersons write up on it, it has all the info needed to figure it all out
http://www.muddtanks.com/4LinkSuspArticle.htm
and ths is an imperial 4link calc, i could never find a metric one...do'h
http://mysite.verizon.net/triaged/4link ... index.html
its all in the link setup "A" frames, 4 links ,3 link panhards can all be setup with zero steer if you know what you are doin
X2 has to be done right.

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new front under construction.

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:28 pm
by atari4x4
hey joe are they vitara ball joints?

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:29 pm
by joeblow
atari4x4 wrote:hey joe are they vitara ball joints?
bingo :armsup:

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:22 am
by 31zook
does anyone know where to find the math to figure Aframes and 3link panhards out???

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:22 pm
by VR Rodeo
31zook wrote:does anyone know where to find the math to figure Aframes and 3link panhards out???
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthre ... calculator

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:04 pm
by 31zook
VR Rodeo wrote:
31zook wrote:does anyone know where to find the math to figure Aframes and 3link panhards out???
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthre ... calculator
cheers for that :D