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G16A into a Sierra - process?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:44 pm
by islandvitara
this is NOT covered i have read the bible and cant seem to find the info..

i have a G16A carby i might be picking up for $300 - the whole vitara!!! so will have the engine, wiring loom, power steering (i think if it has it).

so far i understand i will need

- refabricated engine mounts
- conversion kit from "BenT"
- 2" bodylift

anything else? as for the wiring is it juz plug and go or will i need to do some modifying of the wiring to suit?

i know i need a 2" bodylift thats no problem, all im concerned about is the wiring...im pretty good with this kinda stuff i just need info on how to do it as i dont have the vitara yet but will be VERY soon..

cheers :cool:

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:04 pm
by alien
its carby so no wiring loom required... use the 1.3 stuff.

you also dont need a body lift - using the suzistore g16a kit mine fitted just fine - although running a weber i had to cut the cross bracing in the bonnet.

youll need the vit's extractors as well (and the appropriate exhaust work).

edit: oh yeh - you should be able to use the vit alternator too =)

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:07 pm
by islandvitara
alien you champ!!!

so the 1.3 wiring will fit the g16a yea? well i was planning on a 2" BL anyway so thas cool too, yea the Vit's got extractors on it too so they're commin with it. and the exhaust i'll get fitted after its all done..

so juz to wrap this up

- fab up new mounts, fit the conversion kit and engine then get exhaust dont?

cheers :armsup:

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:20 pm
by NIK
You can use the 1300 exhaust if you already have extractors , and I undone the bonnet bolts lifted the bonnet then redid the bolts up to get as much height possible.
My airbox adapter didnt fit the vit carb and the vit airbox was one that sits ontop of the engine so it wouldnt fit under the bonnet.
I used and egg ring between the vit carby and the sierra airbox adapter...hey it worked.
Nik

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:13 pm
by alien
i left the 1.3 carby on and had it rejetted...

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:10 pm
by islandvitara
alien wrote:i left the 1.3 carby on and had it rejetted...
what did you mean by this - rejetted?

did you remove the vit carby and airbox and fit the 1.3 carby and airbox to the 1.6?

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:26 am
by Taff
you dont have to fabricate any mounts with the kit from bent, you use the 1.3 passenger and 1.6 driver from memory.

Its in the instructions.

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:44 am
by alien
carbies have "jets" (nozzles that squirt out the fuel) - bigger jet = more fuel... i kept the 1.3 air box and carby on top of the 1.6 to keep it simple and fitting without a BL... however i eventually wanted more out of it so chucked a weber on... then wanted more still and now EFI =) haha

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:14 am
by danssurf82
carby 1.6 dont go much better than a 1.3!!!!!! chuck injection on it or find a 1.6 with injection already..

whole exhaust off a vit will fit except u will need to cut it down at the end of the muffler and get new pipework from there...

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:26 am
by get it up there
heres a step by step guide for a 1600 conversion.. did mine about 5 months ago.. (mines EFI though)
http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... conversion

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:11 pm
by wickedstix
danssurf82 wrote:carby 1.6 dont go much better than a 1.3!!!!!! chuck injection on it or find a 1.6 with injection already..

whole exhaust off a vit will fit except u will need to cut it down at the end of the muffler and get new pipework from there...
so how much better is the injection over carby????
as i'm about to do the same thing but i'm gonna run mine on LPG gas so it handles the slopes

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:29 pm
by 31zook
think of no cold starts and instant power...

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:39 pm
by alien
the EFI is about a gazillion times better than carby... however it costs more =)

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:03 pm
by islandvitara
danssurf82 wrote:carby 1.6 dont go much better than a 1.3!!!!!! chuck injection on it or find a 1.6 with injection already..

whole exhaust off a vit will fit except u will need to cut it down at the end of the muffler and get new pipework from there...


so on a G16A your able to swap the carby for a EFI unit? is this a difficult or costly mod? how would you do this? is it bolt on or a bit of muckin around?

i think im benifiting if i get hold of this g16a and swap it into my sierra, cos its $300 for the whole car. plus $200 for the kit ect i think its a good option.. and if im able to swap the carby for a efi unit later thats even better...

cos how much are g16b's...$500 - $1300??? either way i think $300 for a g16a vitara is a bargain :armsup:

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:49 pm
by scooby_74
Depends on what type of efi you want to go.
Most g16a engines already had 4 valve pistons from factory, only the early ones didn't. You can go throttle body injection where you keep your head and manifolf, but multipoint is a head change, hope you have the right pistons, new intake and exhaust manifold on top of the computer and pump, costs a bucket load more but heaps better than throttle body injection.

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:54 pm
by danssurf82
injection is better than gas, me and my mate with his sierra with 1.6efi con.have no probs on verticle inclines and declines idles great and doesnt stall...

gas on the otherhand is not as reliable, burns valves out, cant refill if u run out of fuel, and running dual fuel can overcome the refueling problem but i have never seen a car run great when on dual fuel... they have no toque

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:05 am
by Mudbits
If your going to do it go 16V injected. Its so much better. Carbs are for old folk who cant use the internet!
Bens kits fits perfect and no need to modify engine mounts.
Enigine will fit without body lift but can rub a little on bonnet bracing.