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Hi I am looking into installing a turbo timer on a 4.2TD Patrol and want to know peoples experience with them ad if there are better ones than Bogaards out there,
cheers

They are good because they plug into your loom, don't have to cut any wires.

We fit Bogard turbo timers at work all the time.. Max 20 min fit maybe 30 if the ignition is hard to get too due to the covers...

Turbo timers are a waste of time.

Fit an EGT gauge and use that for shutdown temps. Most of them time diesels require no idling down.

KiwiBacon wrote:Turbo timers are a waste of time.

Fit an EGT gauge and use that for shutdown temps. Most of them time diesels require no idling down.

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But to answer the question, all of the timers i've had were Bogaard units. I never had an issue with them, aside from one that would randomly run on past the timer cut out - only every so often.

coxy321 wrote:

KiwiBacon wrote:Turbo timers are a waste of time.

Fit an EGT gauge and use that for shutdown temps..

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x eleventyteenteen

bogged wrote:

coxy321 wrote:

KiwiBacon wrote:Turbo timers are a waste of time.

Fit an EGT gauge and use that for shutdown temps..

x2.

x eleventyteenteen

It can never be a bad thing to let the motor idle for a little longer and let the temp come down some more. I use both. I check the temp before I leave the car, and then it gets another 30 seconds to drop another 20 or 30 degrees (or more) after I leave the car.

Personal preference really. If the temp is still up high but I'm rushing around for some reason, I'll set the timer for a bit longer, and then get on with it. Yeah, I know, I'd only lose a minute or 2 sitting in the car, but when you are doing that, it feels like forever.

marin wrote:

bogged wrote:

coxy321 wrote:

KiwiBacon wrote:Turbo timers are a waste of time.

Fit an EGT gauge and use that for shutdown temps..

x2.

x eleventyteenteen

It can never be a bad thing to let the motor idle for a little longer and let the temp come down some more. I use both. I check the temp before I leave the car, and then it gets another 30 seconds to drop another 20 or 30 degrees (or more) after I leave the car.

Personal preference really. If the temp is still up high but I'm rushing around for some reason, I'll set the timer for a bit longer, and then get on with it. Yeah, I know, I'd only lose a minute or 2 sitting in the car, but when you are doing that, it feels like forever.

My EGT drops to 120 degrees fairly quickly at idle - i always make sure i never push the car 5 minutes before a get home too which helps.

coxy321 wrote:

marin wrote:

bogged wrote:

coxy321 wrote:

KiwiBacon wrote:Turbo timers are a waste of time.

Fit an EGT gauge and use that for shutdown temps..

x2.

x eleventyteenteen

It can never be a bad thing to let the motor idle for a little longer and let the temp come down some more. I use both. I check the temp before I leave the car, and then it gets another 30 seconds to drop another 20 or 30 degrees (or more) after I leave the car.

Personal preference really. If the temp is still up high but I'm rushing around for some reason, I'll set the timer for a bit longer, and then get on with it. Yeah, I know, I'd only lose a minute or 2 sitting in the car, but when you are doing that, it feels like forever.

My EGT drops to 120 degrees fairly quickly at idle - i always make sure i never push the car 5 minutes before a get home too which helps.

same... plus by the time I get out, get my bag and shit out of the car, its dropped 100 degrees anyway.

marin wrote:It can never be a bad thing to let the motor idle for a little longer and let the temp come down some more. I use both. I check the temp before I leave the car, and then it gets another 30 seconds to drop another 20 or 30 degrees (or more) after I leave the car.

Personal preference really. If the temp is still up high but I'm rushing around for some reason, I'll set the timer for a bit longer, and then get on with it. Yeah, I know, I'd only lose a minute or 2 sitting in the car, but when you are doing that, it feels like forever.

Idling isn't good for any engine, particularly diesels.
I shut it down around 200C and it only needs a cool down if it's been flogged in the last 30 seconds.
Even open road at 100km/h doesn't need a cool-down. By the time I've stopped it's cool enough to kill.

KiwiBacon wrote:

marin wrote:It can never be a bad thing to let the motor idle for a little longer and let the temp come down some more. I use both. I check the temp before I leave the car, and then it gets another 30 seconds to drop another 20 or 30 degrees (or more) after I leave the car.

Personal preference really. If the temp is still up high but I'm rushing around for some reason, I'll set the timer for a bit longer, and then get on with it. Yeah, I know, I'd only lose a minute or 2 sitting in the car, but when you are doing that, it feels like forever.

Idling isn't good for any engine, particularly diesels.
I shut it down around 200C and it only needs a cool down if it's been flogged in the last 30 seconds.
Even open road at 100km/h doesn't need a cool-down. By the time I've stopped it's cool enough to kill.

I think we've covered this one already (and i'm probably opening a can of worms commenting on this) - but idling a diesel for a minute or two won't hurt it at all. 20-30 minutes, or sustained idling on a regular basis maybe, but not for most peoples normal "cool down" routine.

we finishing denco fit tonight and got the gauges and throwing a timer on it. $200 arb plug in unit which mate said take 10 mins to fit...... he suggests these area supperior unit.

Keep in mind when you fit a turbo timer you give a car thief the exact wires he needs to hotwire your car, all that's missing is the starter, but that's only a screwdriver away.

Jaffa wrote:Keep in mind when you fit a turbo timer you give a car thief the exact wires he needs to hotwire your car, all that's missing is the starter, but that's only a screwdriver away.

Or a straight out chance to just steal your car while the timer is running. With the Bogaard ones if you keep pressing the time change button the engine will run forever.

Then you get the dumb theives that don't work out the steering lock until its too late....

coxy321 wrote:I think we've covered this one already (and i'm probably opening a can of worms commenting on this) - but idling a diesel for a minute or two won't hurt it at all. 20-30 minutes, or sustained idling on a regular basis maybe, but not for most peoples normal "cool down" routine.

But why pay good money for something that's not needed and won't do enough when it is needed?

On the theft angle. Don't forget the people who walk away from their running vehicle because they think it's on the turbo timer.

Don't forget the safety angle too, you can't shut the engine off instantly with the key anymore.

KiwiBacon wrote:

coxy321 wrote:I think we've covered this one already (and i'm probably opening a can of worms commenting on this) - but idling a diesel for a minute or two won't hurt it at all. 20-30 minutes, or sustained idling on a regular basis maybe, but not for most peoples normal "cool down" routine.

But why pay good money for something that's not needed and won't do enough when it is needed?

If you're reffering to turbo timers - don't worry. I'm not a huge fan, i just go off my pyro.

For the price of a good turbo timer, you could have yourself a pyro setup.

bogged wrote:

coxy321 wrote:

KiwiBacon wrote:Turbo timers are a waste of time.

Fit an EGT gauge and use that for shutdown temps..

x2.

x eleventyteenteen

Turbo timers are for ricers or people that don't have an EGT gauge.

If you don't have an EGT gauge and think you need a turbo timer, you have probably also put your jocks on back the front. We know your stupid, just cannot prove it yet.

- David.

Dirty wrote:If you don't have an EGT gauge and think you need a turbo timer, you have probably also put your jocks on back the front. We know your stupid, just cannot prove it yet.

- David.

Check for green tyre valve caps.

boggard are factory fit for kenworth. as every one else says, take it easy for the last few km home then you can switch straight off.

imagine blowing a turbo and you slam on the anchors, hit the key, and then fumble around for 20 sec looking for the bypass button on the timer. Another 20 secs for the engine to suck more blades into the motor.

Idleing for diesel is fine, wont hurt even half hour,etc, yeah they glaze a little bit, but so does cruising around to the shops, school, soccer, etc, etc.
1 good hot hard run and its all clean again.

this thread is going to have as many opinions as to how long/method for warming up a diesel.

My 2c. is fit one for when you have to pull your keys out to open/shut gates,etc. BUT put a switch on it so you can leave it off when not needed.

[/quote]Or a straight out chance to just steal your car while the timer is running. With the Bogaard ones if you keep pressing the time change button the engine will run forever.

Then you get the dumb theives that don't work out the steering lock until its too late....[/quote]
I have tried that on mine and it will not change from what it was set to once the ignition is switched off. Mine came fitted when I bought it so I'm not sure if it's been modified.