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Hey everyone, i am in the process of buying my first set of 33s and i am just wondering which ATs are peoples favorite? i just need a little help as i don't know to much bout tires.

Thanks

Have a look at some of the tyre topic threads in General 4x4 Tech. Some good info in there.


Here, the conversation is likely to very quickly degrade into discussion about the best tyre to tie a goat to or what's the easiest tyre to kill with a .22 to the back of its head.

No, he wants 33s, not 22s.

I reckon the best AT out there is the STT. I certainly didn't buy them for mud. Unlike some others, traction in the mud isn't something I'm particularly interested in.

hhaha cheers mate, yeh ill check those topics out.. thanks a bunch

AJFeroza wrote:Have a look at some of the tyre topic threads in General 4x4 Tech. Some good info in there.

Tyre Topic Index.

ill chuck a vote to the cooper stt's as well - mine have done me 2 years of abuse as a DD and offroad and still at 75% - no complaints other than mud - they clog up bad in thick, goopy mud - but general slush mud they clear out fine. grippier on road than the cooper H/Ts i had before them too!

no worries fella's yeh i was looking through the topics and they seem like a good pick.. im either thinking stt or mickey Ts atz 4 ribs.
any opinions??

cheers

CruiserFun wrote:no worries fella's yeh i was looking through the topics and they seem like a good pick.. im either thinking stt or mickey Ts atz 4 ribs.
any opinions??

cheers

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BFG allterrain only way to go

BFG At best at you can get for sand work i have found anyways way better than my old coopers they were pathetic

oh ok sounds like BFs are the way to go then, does anyone know wat the price for a 33 wpould be around?

CruiserFun wrote:oh ok sounds like BFs are the way to go then

How did you come to that conclusion?

I find it interesting that we have Tyre Topics covering 19 different tyres from 13 different manufacturers, but the BFG AT isn't one of them.

just from wat people are saying scotty, i dont know to much bout tires so just taking advice. i am pretty keen for some MT atz's tho ay.

a friend with new MT atr on his patrol ute is very unimpressed with them as they are wearing down really quickly and for sand work he has to let them down heaps like you have to do with your muddies With bfgs i found they were by far the best tyre that suited my needs mainly sand tracks and beach but the MT tyres do have a bit thicker side wall

oh ok yeh i all i've been hearing is good things bout the BFs .

I run maxxis Bravos as my road / beach tyre and are fine for those purposes. Will never touch the old BFGs with the rim protector as you constantly get leaking tyres!!!! believe other manufacturers do it as well wont use them. If money was no option though I'd be keen on the new BFGs as they dont have the rim protector and have been rated high by friends! horses for courses hence I run two sets of tyres to suit my driving!

I've had BFG ATs and found them useless compared to a Cooper ST or STT, I currently have a set of STs on the hilux and they work great

dick cepics.... awsome tyre. i have 33x12.5x17 and they grip great... not the best without airing down but anything under 30 and they are great in most conditions, plus they wear pretty good.

Honestly go down to a reputable Tyre shop, if in brissie go see Fourbys, and ask them. Tell them what you want out of them and the type of driving you do and the type of roads/tracks you drive on and the frequency you drive on them and they should be able to suggest a few that will suit you best.

Mainly because everyone on here is going to have different opinion on what tyres suit them best and that opinion may not suit you as they may be driving on different surfaces than you do or spend more time on a certain surface than you do

-Scott- wrote:No, he wants 33s, not 22s.

I reckon the best AT out there is the STT. I certainly didn't buy them for mud. Unlike some others, traction in the mud isn't something I'm particularly interested in.

alien wrote:ill chuck a vote to the cooper stt's as well - mine have done me 2 years of abuse as a DD and offroad and still at 75% - no complaints other than mud - they clog up bad in thick, goopy mud - but general slush mud they clear out fine. grippier on road than the cooper H/Ts i had before them too!

You guys must be talking about the Cooper ST. The Cooper STT are in no way 'all terrain' they are an 80% mud tyre.
If this is correct then my vote would be the same.
Cooper ST - Great Tyre! although can get a tad slippery on road when they wear past 50% tread.
A close second would be BFGs A/T Though I've never had them they go very well on alot of mates cars.

BFG AT's - great if you like leaky beads all the time.

Depends on what type of terrain, but i dont think you could go past MT/Rs as an all round tyre, just my HO however. For onroad, sand, and good dirt roads, the Pro Comp has a 80,000km guarantee; so perhaps something to consider.

bananaman wrote:

-Scott- wrote:No, he wants 33s, not 22s.

I reckon the best AT out there is the STT. I certainly didn't buy them for mud. Unlike some others, traction in the mud isn't something I'm particularly interested in.

alien wrote:ill chuck a vote to the cooper stt's as well - mine have done me 2 years of abuse as a DD and offroad and still at 75% - no complaints other than mud - they clog up bad in thick, goopy mud - but general slush mud they clear out fine. grippier on road than the cooper H/Ts i had before them too!

You guys must be talking about the Cooper ST. The Cooper STT are in no way 'all terrain' they are an 80% mud tyre.

I can't speak for alien, but I'm definitely talking about the STT. I've had S/Ts too, and I like them, but I'd rather have the STT - for it's tougher sidewall.

If you want to get immersed in Cooper's advertising, the S/T is a 60% mud tyre, so that would discount them too. However, if I was looking for an 80% mud tyre, I wouldn't be looking at STTs (I'd probably be looking for a lobotomy - I hate mud.) I believe the market has moved on from the days of H/T - A/T - M/T, and there is now more of a continuum from mild to wild.

To me, tyres such as the STT, MT/R & MTZ are more "aggressive all-terrain" rather than mud tyre. "Mud" is not their primary design consideration. STT = Super Traction Tire (damn yanks! ), MT/R = Maximum Traction / Reinforced and MTZ = NFI.

So, best All Terrain? I give it to the STT - but I'm biassed.

Have had BFG A/Ts on 3 different vehciles and in each case I thought they were junk.
Last time I was in the tyre store the sales bloke tried long & hard to sell me another set.....He claimed that they were "the best", when I asked how he said they are our biggest seller.....Myresponse "So I guess Hyindais are the best car on the road too huh".....
Think it was more that they were what gave him the best margin.

I did a lot of research recently on AT tyres - for me it couldn't be a pain to live with on the road (as that's the car's primary use) but still had to be 'off-road' enough that I could go camping/touring anywhere still.

Settled on the Mickey Thompson ATZ 4 Rib.

Picking them up next week, so no first hand evidence yet, but most sites/forums seem to give them a pretty good wrap.

Andres wrote:I did a lot of research recently on AT tyres - for me it couldn't be a pain to live with on the road (as that's the car's primary use) but still had to be 'off-road' enough that I could go camping/touring anywhere still.

Settled on the Mickey Thompson ATZ 4 Rib.

Picking them up next week, so no first hand evidence yet, but most sites/forums seem to give them a pretty good wrap.

I got them on my truck for the same reasons as Andres. 285/75/16. Excellent in the dirt/rocks, good on dry/wet roads (much better than my old bfg muds!), don't know about mud.

Wearing very well, don't notice the noise on road (quiet compared to bfg muds) mostly highway and some offroad/gravel roads.

First set I got started showing cracks around the bead at 12-15,000km. MT rep checked them out and gave me a new set on the spot. Good service. New set aren't showing any signs of cracking yet.

Only ever had BFG muds to compare them to but so far very happy with my choice. My BFGs suffered from the dirt-in-the-bead leak every now and then.

mate,

I just went through the same thing you are going through now....

I had 17" Nissan alloys with BFG A/T's, and to cut a long story short, settled with a new set of procomp rims with mickey thompson 4 rib ATZ's, and had them fitted 'bout 2 weeks ago..

I'll be heading off for a trip in 2 weeks (3,500 K's) with a bit of 4wding so i'll see how they go, but so far they are quiet on the road and handle very well in the wet on tar... other than that i haven't taken them off road yet..

Good luck

Lightning