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Hello All,
I'm new here and this is my first posting. I have somewhat of a problem that I'm hoping someone can help me out with.
I just recently purchased an unregistered 1986 Toyota Landcruiser fire truck.
It arrived from the Gold Coast last Friday. It's never been registered in Australia before, so I have to get it up to compliance.
This seems to be a simple matter except for that of the engine. It seems that there is possibly an emission issue.
The motor is a 3F at 3955 cc.
Can anybody tell me if this engine was used in any other Toyota vehicles of that era.
Thanks for the help.
Regards,
Eric

Plenty of these in Aussie land, came out until about 1990 and up to the early 80 series but have been around for years, very thirsty on fuel and dont bother trying to overtake unles travelling downhill, are reliable but slow engines in a 2T plus vehicle...

Yeah mate, I had a 1989 FJ 62 with the 3F in it. Couldn't kill it.

Thanks micntor and krakatinny, I guess now I'll have to chase up some documentation to legitamise that this engine type has been registered here in Oz previously. This compliance of overseas vehicles is pretty stringent.
Regards,
Eric

the carb 3f motor was avl in the 75 series utes and troopys untill oct 92 the after that the 1fz-fe was avl

There is also a 3F-E in real early 80 series from memory..

Photos of your firetruck mate? Is it a Japanese one?

Tell us about it.

bj on roids wrote:There is also a 3F-E in real early 80 series from memory..

Photos of your firetruck mate? Is it a Japanese one?

Tell us about it.

Ray had some lawyer come in to the workshop who decided he was gonna take the missus out bush. So hey found him self an 80 series dropped it at ARB and threw the chequebook at it, it was awesome, it had basically the whole catalogue on it, shame the idiot had bought an 80 with a 3F carby in it
He swore black and blue it was efi too, I cant remember exactly but I'm pretty sure he was trying to tell ray the carby was the alternator or something retarded like that...

bj on roids wrote:There is also a 3F-E in real early 80 series from memory..

Photos of your firetruck mate? Is it a Japanese one?

Tell us about it.

The 3f carb in the first aus 80 series then 1 or 2 years of the 3f-e in the 80s until to oct 92
The US had 3f-e's in their late 60 series
Any 7x series all came with the carbd 3f no 3fe's not even when 80 series had 3f-e's

GO79 wrote:

bj on roids wrote:There is also a 3F-E in real early 80 series from memory..

Photos of your firetruck mate? Is it a Japanese one?

Tell us about it.

The 3f carb in the first aus 80 series then 1 or 2 years of the 3f-e in the 80s until to oct 92
The US had 3f-e's in their late 60 series
Any 7x series all came with the carbd 3f no 3fe's not even when 80 series had 3f-e's

my brother had the 3F-e gutless AND thirsty! LOL!!!

Thanks for the help guys. This compliance thing is pretty detailed. I rang the place today that will be checking the fire truck for the appropriate ADRs and told them that this engine was common in Australian vehicles, but they need documentation to support it. They told me a workshop manual with engine schematics would suffice. Just so they can compare that all the pollution layout is the same. There is a 3F manual on ebay along with a couple of others that I'll bid on, but it's dated 1980.
Maybe the motor might be the same, but I would imagine that all the pollution stuff would be unique to that year. Or maybe a couple of years at the most.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
bj on roids - thanks for your interest. Yes the fire truck is Japanese. I bought it from a company on the Gold Coast and had it transported down here to Melbourne. They imported it several years ago but have never used it. It has 4000 kilometers on the clock, and I would say it is genuine. Everything still looks new. Well new is probably not the word. It does have surface rust in the engine bay and parts of the pump controls, but it's easy to see that it hasn't been used a lot.
I have all the manuals for the pump operation, but they are in Japanese!
I'd attach a picture but I'm unsure how to.
regards,
Eric
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Email them to me and ill post them up for you eric.

You can buy the workshop manuals from K-mart and Repco and other places like that for around the $30 mark I thought.

Look for one of the 60/75 series ones with the petrol engine section, that should largely do it right? Or do they need the full engine manual??

If the vehicle is 15yrs old or older, registering it wont require it to comply with all ADRs.
I have an imported landcruiser, my car has no Green compliance plate, which is a plate fitted to show that an import meets all the ADRs.
Mine was inspected by an engineer and a report written saying that its aftermarket wheels and tyres and suspension where equivilant to the factory fitted items, it listed lots of ADRs and reported that it complied with the intent of the ADRs. (Cant remember the wording)

When I bought mine I was concerned because it had no green compliance tag on it, but it was not required. I spoke to the RTA technical department (NSW) they where very helpful, from speeking to them, I dont think a lot of the negineering report was strictly neccessary. I would suggest you try and have a chat to the equivilent in VIC. You may not need an engineer to do much at all. You should also be able to find info on what is required on the VIC RTA/DOT?? website.

1980 would be the 2f motor mate a few differences so i think the emission might differ to

Hello 80's_delirios, thanks for the info. Seems the same type of situation here in Vic. All I need is the "authority to Import" certificate and a VASS certificate. VASS being Vehicle Assessment Signitory Scheme. As you say, it's just an engineers report, but it still has to comply to ADRs.
No need for a compliance plate though. Sounds simple enough, but the VASS is going to cost me around $800.00 plus any alterations like seat belts, brake hoses etc.
Regards,
Eric

The imaged will need to be hosted online, or just email them to me and ill get onto it.