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Stock Sierra Suspension

Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 3:14 pm
by greg
I just had a question from a Vehicle Engineer (VASS) about my car.

He wanted to know how much more suspension lift my car had over a standard sierra.

Apparently the rules in Victoria are that you can lift the car by no more than one third of the original suspension lift of the car before you need to get the car engineered.

Does anyone know what suspension a lift Stock Sierra had? i.e. perhaps what was the distance from the bump stop to the springs at ride height? (it think that is how it is determined?)...

Thanks.

Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 3:22 pm
by greg
Here's the sort of thing i'm talking about...

From this site:

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/vrne/vrn ... ment&Area=[Road+safety+hidden+documents]


Quote:
A vehicle may be lowered or raised provided the clearance between a suspension component and it's associated bump stop is not altered by more than 1/3 of that specified by the manufacturer. In addition, the normal relationship between the front and rear suspension heights must not be unduly affected.

Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 3:24 pm
by moose
about this much .....
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:D :armsup: :D

Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 3:28 pm
by greg
What resolution should i have my 17" monitor at at to get an accurate measurement moose?

Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 3:48 pm
by Guy
1600x1200 ..

Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 3:48 pm
by DeWsE
I'll measure up for you tonight when I get home.
But I would imagine that my springs are a bit sagged especially at the front.

Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 3:54 pm
by greg
DeWsE wrote:I'll measure up for you tonight when I get home.
But I would imagine that my springs are a bit sagged especially at the front.


Thanks dewse...

If it's not too much hassle - perhaps you could jack the car up a tad so that the shackle is verticle-ish (or the springs are at least flat rather than inverted) - that would kind of simulate the springs when they were new i reckon.

Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 4:02 pm
by DeWsE
Wellt the front ones are close to flat and the rear have a tad bit of arch. they have been reset before so they should be pretty close.

No hassle ;)

Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 6:35 pm
by bigsteve
I thought you springs were pretty much flat now anyway Gerg??

Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 7:44 pm
by DeWsE
Well the front is:

170mm from the top of the spring to the end point of the rubber bump stop.

The rear

230mm from the top of the spring to the metal plate that limits the bump stop.

Also I measured the distance between the end of the bump stop and where it contacts. The front was 90mm and the rear 110mm

greg wrote:It's hard work being a car guru


I know what you mean :cool:

Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 9:36 am
by stephen
I don't think that is standard suspension :shock: :shock:

Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 10:11 am
by DeWsE
stephen wrote:
I don't think that is standard suspension


Well they have been reset before but they are still the the stoch springs. They were reset over a year ago so I would assume they have sagged.

Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 11:10 am
by greg
Cheers Dewse. :)

Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 12:11 pm
by redzook
DeWsE wrote:Well the front is:

1700mm from the top of the spring to the end point of the rubber bump stop.

The rear

2300mm from the top of the spring to the metal plate that limits the bump stop.

Also I measured the distance between the end of the bump stop and where it contacts. The front was 900mm and the rear 1100mm

greg wrote:It's hard work being a car guru


I know what you mean :cool:


i think u added to many zeros ;)

Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 12:16 pm
by greg
redzook wrote:
DeWsE wrote:Well the front is:

1700mm from the top of the spring to the end point of the rubber bump stop.

The rear

2300mm from the top of the spring to the metal plate that limits the bump stop.

Also I measured the distance between the end of the bump stop and where it contacts. The front was 900mm and the rear 1100mm

greg wrote:It's hard work being a car guru


I know what you mean :cool:


i think u added to many zeros ;)


Perhaps he was measuring how heigh up your car sits ;)

Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 12:27 pm
by redzook
look where he measured from top of springs to bump stops
i havent got lifted springs so mine would be prolly lower :roll:

Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 2:52 pm
by DeWsE
redzook wrote:
DeWsE wrote:Well the front is:

1700mm from the top of the spring to the end point of the rubber bump stop.

The rear

2300mm from the top of the spring to the metal plate that limits the bump stop.

Also I measured the distance between the end of the bump stop and where it contacts. The front was 900mm and the rear 1100mm

greg wrote:It's hard work being a car guru


I know what you mean :cool:


i think u added to many zeros ;)


Your right redzook I was to excited and added to many "0".