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Hey all, I noticed in the latest Repco Catalogue they have an Engel fridge freezer, 55L for $799. Heres the ad:
Before i jumped out and bought it, i thought i'd do some research first.

I can't find much info but it may be a chinese nock off,
This is about all the info i could find on the fridge. Does anyone have any more info to share about it?
http://www.pradopoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6858

I would be more than happy to fork out that cash for a genuine article, but for another generic chinese fridge... No. I have seen them cheaper.

Mike

I would be very suprised if it was not a genuine Engel. Repco would be leaving themselves way open to prosecution if it's not.

Have you at least gone down to have a look at it? Ask them behind the counter if comes with a warranty from Engel?

It's a vibrating vagina!

4bdan wrote:I would be very suprised if it was not a genuine Engel. Repco would be leaving themselves way open to prosecution if it's not.

Have you at least gone down to have a look at it? Ask them behind the counter if comes with a warranty from Engel?

Just like a Toyota Lexcen is a genuine toyota... And Ford Maverick a Genuine Ford... Right?

That Engel sure looks similar to this Outback TravelMate: http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x104 ... 1221134424

And this one:
http://www.ipswichbatteries.com.au/travelmate.html These show the fridge covered, but you can see the vents are in the same places, as is the temp control.

Also, if you could show me where on the Engel website they show this product that would be great! http://www.engelaustralia.com.au/cgi-bin/products.cgi

These are made in China.

Still, I'm happy to be proven wrong. Would love an Engel for that price!

Mike

(In Brisbane) Anaconda currently have a 20% off sale! inc camp fridges
That should get you an engel cheap

mike_nofx wrote:

4bdan wrote:I would be very suprised if it was not a genuine Engel. Repco would be leaving themselves way open to prosecution if it's not.

Have you at least gone down to have a look at it? Ask them behind the counter if comes with a warranty from Engel?

Just like a Toyota Lexcen is a genuine toyota... And Ford Maverick a Genuine Ford... Right?

That Engel sure looks similar to this Outback TravelMate: http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x104 ... 1221134424

And this one:
http://www.ipswichbatteries.com.au/travelmate.html These show the fridge covered, but you can see the vents are in the same places, as is the temp control.

Also, if you could show me where on the Engel website they show this product that would be great! http://www.engelaustralia.com.au/cgi-bin/products.cgi

These are made in China.

Still, I'm happy to be proven wrong. Would love an Engel for that price!

Mike

WTF?

You posted in your title that it is a "fake" Engel, I simply pointed out that if it was, then Repco would be leaving themselves open to a law suit.

If it was indeed built, distributed and badged as an ENGEL without the companies consent, then yes I would consider it a "fake".

The fact that it is advertised as an Engel would lead me to believe that it is distributed and badged by Engel. It very well might be made in China, but as I said previously, have you gone in and looked at one & asked if it comes with an Engel Warranty?

Why don't you give Engel a call since your so passionate about it and talk to them?

And yes the Toyota Lexen is a TOYOTA and the Ford Maverick is still a FORD. They may not have been designed and built by Toyota and Ford, but they were sold BADGED as such and came with warranties from Toyota and Ford.

Are you starting to get it now???

Don't buy one dad had one and they are the shitest thing made it chewed a 100ahr battery in a day he went and spent the money on a proper engell as did I and they are worth every penny the stuff from Repco are not a real engell, they are knock offs be very careful.

they are not knockoffs, they would be a different quality fridge sold by Engel. Just a different type of fridge to their normal ones. There is no way in hell a company like repco would be selling a knockoff fridge, especially of such a recognised brand name as Engel.

grimbo wrote:they are not knockoffs, they would be a different quality fridge sold by Engel. Just a different type of fridge to their normal ones. There is no way in hell a company like repco would be selling a knockoff fridge, especially of such a recognised brand name as Engel.

Somebody gets it

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they are not knockoffs, they would be a different quality fridge sold by Engel. Just a different type of fridge to their normal ones. There is no way in hell a company like repco would be selling a knockoff fridge, especially of such a recognised brand name as Engel.


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so where do engle get there products manufactured?

shortyq wrote:so where do engle get there products manufactured?

Lock in A) Eddie

China

if your looking for a cheap fridge ALDI had a 3 way for $300 2 year warranty aswell, might be worth a look if you on a budget

hey mike how you doin?

Not sure about quality but as said give them a ring and ask what amps they draw as this will more then likely be pretty high compared to the genuine steel bodied engel...

My engle can run for a full day in the 4by on the 2nd battery and there is still enough power in it to crank the diesel.

Cant help as to the quality of this unit but for the extra money IMOP you would be better to wait and buy one that has been tried and tested for years in the harshest conditions...They have a excellent reputation and better to buy something good and only once.. Nothing worse then taking a chance on something that is still expensive.

Not that that helps your question....but

Brad

grimbo wrote:

shortyq wrote:so where do engle get there products manufactured?

Lock in A) Eddie

China

Eddie says... you lost $1,000,000.00 grimbo.. ha ha

They're made in Japan, Sawafuji Electric Co. Ltd.

It says on the engel au website.

And I went to repco today at Sumner park and yes it comes with 3 year warranty... the fridge also has a engel sticker saying '3 YEAR ENGEL WARRANTY'.

id like to phone a freind
because obviously not all engel,s are made in nippon!

GRIMACE wrote:Its the new cheaper plastic range. Genuine Engel.

Don't tell me they are dropping their standards to that of a Waeco

Hmmm, strange. Australian 4wd action, edition No 136, has a fridge comparo in it. They list the Engel MT45F Series 2 40l fridge as being made in Thailand.

surely even tho they are made where ever they still carry
the jap electronics ,even if the HQ for engel are in japan!
thats where these other versions fail!like anything.

it's not an engel It is a complete stuffup by the mob who done the catalogue. I know this 'cause I work at repco.

4bdan wrote:

mike_nofx wrote:

4bdan wrote:I would be very suprised if it was not a genuine Engel. Repco would be leaving themselves way open to prosecution if it's not.

Have you at least gone down to have a look at it? Ask them behind the counter if comes with a warranty from Engel?

Just like a Toyota Lexcen is a genuine toyota... And Ford Maverick a Genuine Ford... Right?

That Engel sure looks similar to this Outback TravelMate: http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x104 ... 1221134424

And this one:
http://www.ipswichbatteries.com.au/travelmate.html These show the fridge covered, but you can see the vents are in the same places, as is the temp control.

Also, if you could show me where on the Engel website they show this product that would be great! http://www.engelaustralia.com.au/cgi-bin/products.cgi

These are made in China.

Still, I'm happy to be proven wrong. Would love an Engel for that price!

Mike

WTF?

You posted in your title that it is a "fake" Engel, I simply pointed out that if it was, then Repco would be leaving themselves open to a law suit.

If it was indeed built, distributed and badged as an ENGEL without the companies consent, then yes I would consider it a "fake".

The fact that it is advertised as an Engel would lead me to believe that it is distributed and badged by Engel. It very well might be made in China, but as I said previously, have you gone in and looked at one & asked if it comes with an Engel Warranty?

Why don't you give Engel a call since your so passionate about it and talk to them?

And yes the Toyota Lexen is a TOYOTA and the Ford Maverick is still a FORD. They may not have been designed and built by Toyota and Ford, but they were sold BADGED as such and came with warranties from Toyota and Ford.

Are you starting to get it now???

I've obviously worded this all wrong. I wasn't trying to accuse Repco of selling a knock off, or of rebadging a cheap fridge themselves.

I understand full well that Engel would have consented to the sale of this fridge.

What im trying to clarify is, Is this fridge of ENGEL quality? Is it made by ENGEL using quality japanese parts, as in their usual fridge range?

OR is it a generic chinese fridge, which you can get for $600, Stick on an Engel badge, and add $200 to the price?.... all signs are pointing to yes.

I am also under the impression that when you buy an Engel fridge, you are buying a fridge for life. It should still be keeping my beer cold in 20+ years time.

NOT a fridge that will only outlast its warranty by a few months.

A lot of people will buy a Toyota only because of its reputation of reliability. Is this reliability magically applied to the Lexcen once the toyota badge is stuck on?

Understand me now?

Mike

so croozy what brand is it then if the printers decided to call it an Engel and other people have seen it in person

brad 93hilux wrote:hey mike how you doin?

Not sure about quality but as said give them a ring and ask what amps they draw as this will more then likely be pretty high compared to the genuine steel bodied engel...

My engle can run for a full day in the 4by on the 2nd battery and there is still enough power in it to crank the diesel.

Cant help as to the quality of this unit but for the extra money IMOP you would be better to wait and buy one that has been tried and tested for years in the harshest conditions...They have a excellent reputation and better to buy something good and only once.. Nothing worse then taking a chance on something that is still expensive.

Not that that helps your question....but

Brad

Hey braddy boy. Yeah I would rather pay the extra bucks for quality, but I thought if this was any good it might deserve a look in, being Engel and all. Obviously i was wrong!

Too bad you're not in NSW this weekend, The Funkhana is on, should be pretty good!

Mike

I'll see you at the crossing then Mike huh

i have the 55l travelmate fridge which looks exactly the same , and i just come back from a 4 day camp and running it off a 120 a/h battery , the battery still read 12.3 volts at the end of the camping trip , thats with it running at 0 deg cycling between -2 and +2 deg , and the battery was never topped up during this period

mike_nofx wrote:

brad 93hilux wrote:hey mike how you doin?

Not sure about quality but as said give them a ring and ask what amps they draw as this will more then likely be pretty high compared to the genuine steel bodied engel...

My engle can run for a full day in the 4by on the 2nd battery and there is still enough power in it to crank the diesel.

Cant help as to the quality of this unit but for the extra money IMOP you would be better to wait and buy one that has been tried and tested for years in the harshest conditions...They have a excellent reputation and better to buy something good and only once.. Nothing worse then taking a chance on something that is still expensive.

Not that that helps your question....but

Brad

Hey braddy boy. Yeah I would rather pay the extra bucks for quality, but I thought if this was any good it might deserve a look in, being Engel and all. Obviously i was wrong!

Too bad you're not in NSW this weekend, The Funkhana is on, should be pretty good!

Mike

i'm jelous... still have not been on any tracks in wa that i can call real 4wd tracks... Though i'm moving just south of perth and am hoping to find some one to take me out... the clubs i have looked at so far are pretty lame compared to that of NSW
brad

brad 93hilux wrote:

mike_nofx wrote:

brad 93hilux wrote:hey mike how you doin?

Not sure about quality but as said give them a ring and ask what amps they draw as this will more then likely be pretty high compared to the genuine steel bodied engel...

My engle can run for a full day in the 4by on the 2nd battery and there is still enough power in it to crank the diesel.

Cant help as to the quality of this unit but for the extra money IMOP you would be better to wait and buy one that has been tried and tested for years in the harshest conditions...They have a excellent reputation and better to buy something good and only once.. Nothing worse then taking a chance on something that is still expensive.

Not that that helps your question....but

Brad

Hey braddy boy. Yeah I would rather pay the extra bucks for quality, but I thought if this was any good it might deserve a look in, being Engel and all. Obviously i was wrong!

Too bad you're not in NSW this weekend, The Funkhana is on, should be pretty good!

Mike

i'm jelous... still have not been on any tracks in wa that i can call real 4wd tracks... Though i'm moving just south of perth and am hoping to find some one to take me out... the clubs i have looked at so far are pretty lame compared to that of NSW
brad

if you are needing a hand helding?
might want to find your own trails,might bump into someone
on that trail to hold hands with!

shortyq wrote:so where do engle get there products manufactured?

Where-ever they feel like.
Duh.

Country of assembly means nothing.

[/quote]if you are needing a hand helding?
might want to find your own trails,might bump into someone
on that trail to hold hands with! [/quote]

yeh but from experience the tracks i like to drive generally safer to have some one there.... i get in too much trouble by myself
Not saying the tracks arnt there, but i have no idea where to start and where i have looked i have not found much yet...
...ohh well...

wow nice thread hijack

So croozy what are these fridges if they aren't Engels?